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[00:00:00] Hello, everybody and welcome. Welcome. You! The Mr. Pick Me and the Man Hater. I don't know why every time I go into it, like, I have such, like, naivete that it's going to go well every single time. I'm sorry, did I speak over you? My headphone wasn't working. Oh. I thought I was supposed to. Oh, is that what happens every time you speak over me?

I'm sorry. Hello. I'm gonna sign off on that. I can't stand you. Welcome to our radio show on Mr. Pick XM, radio now. I feel like our listeners can feel my soul draining from my body. Hey, hi, it's me, Ancheska, who keeps calling this a radio show. So today we have a [00:01:00] very interesting episode, I think, because I want to talk about baffling controversy that I saw online.

This woman was at a concert and she was like inappropriately touched or groped or whatever by a guy. Okay. Trigger warning, I guess. Sorry. Um, and she posts a video. And she has a video of him, because after it happened, she has, she got a video, okay? She calls out to TikTok to find this man. And amazingly, with nothing other than his face, they find him.

And his response is Is so foul that I have never seen anything like it. Theme song! You want bad advice, man, I'll give it out gladly. I got some good advice for ya. No you don't.[00:02:00]

Advice for ya. No you don't.

I have seen, just because of the type of content I post, and you do too, like, I'm sure you've seen your fair share of like, Somebody did this horrible thing, and the internet finds them, and they are then forced to respond. And you know, I've seen some bad responses in my time. Um, I've definitely seen defensive responses.

I've seen like accusatory responses. Like there's a lot of terrible ways to respond to being called out on the internet. This blows all of them out of the water. I'm excited. For what it's worth, listeners, I am on this journey with you. I have no idea what this is at all this time. So I'm excited. I get to react as your voice.

That's a lot of pressure on me. Why'd you do that to me? I don't know. Uh, this person's name is Monstra. [00:03:00] Okay, now this person is absolutely, like, precious, just to describe, because this does come up. It feels a little like, um, little anime y, kind of doll y looking, like she does, like, cute makeup, she has green curly hair with really cute bangs, she's just precious.

And, um, She goes to a concert, and this guy touches her. So this is, this is her video. I'm gonna play it for you. Because I think it's important to hear how she describes the incident and the tone with which she describes it. Because it's not like a tee hee thing, like she's genuinely really upset, and then you can hear what he says.

Now she has a big following. She has 3. 2 million. Wow, okay. So another important thing because of his response, in this video she's wearing, um, Oh, what are those hats called? Davy Crockett wears one with the raccoon tail. Oh yeah, yeah. Aren't they called [00:04:00] something? I call them Davy Crockett hats. There's something they're called though.

What are Davy Crockett hats called? Coonskin caps. The reason I point out the hat again is because it comes up. Hello guys, I know I haven't posted in a while. I was in California for a week and then I went Into a John Summit concert, and at this concert, I was harassed and groped by this random man. I did not know.

I did not want any of his attention. I didn't even make eye contact with him, and he decided to grope me. So I'm gonna be publicly airing him out because I was able to get a video of him and he chose the wrong fucking girl to touch that night. So here's the video of him. By the time she gets a video of this man mm-hmm , he is already hitting on another girl.

Wow. So I had to look up to see what he looks like, and that's what I was doing. Any of our video followers see me looking on the side. No looking stuff up. No, no, no. I just wanted to see his face. I know, but you, you're a constant looker downer. I know. I won't. Look here. My eyes are up here. No phones. Never thought you'd be saying that, that sentence to me.

Anyways, [00:05:00] back to our story. So if you want a description of him, he reminds me of Logan from Veronica Mars. I've never seen Veronica Mars. Oh my God. Was that during the gap of TV that I brought about? I talked about the other day. I don't know. See, I didn't watch it till later. I know of Veronica Mars. He reminds me of an older douchebag version of Junie from Spy Kids.

Yeah. Yeah. Spy Kids. Yeah. Okay. So we're getting a vibe here. I've met Junie for the record. Very nice guy in real life. Oh, really? He's married to, um, We have to focus. We are absolutely out of control. Okay. This is actually, this is a crazy story. So, you know, when she's filming him, like he's so nonchalant about it.

Like, I can't imagine. Well, I would never do that, but like doing something bad and then someone filming me, like he doesn't, he doesn't look upset. He doesn't look embarrassed. If anything, he looks like he thinks it's funny. One [00:06:00] can assume he didn't know probably how famous she is. And probably didn't know her reach.

Okay, so he probably, you know, you can assume like thought he was gonna get away with it. Even so, most men who get called out in this way, even if they're bullshitting, will show an air of maybe respect or they're sorry or even if they're defending themselves and saying they didn't do it, they take a respectful tone, right?

Because You know, you're being accused of something pretty serious. Do you want to guess how this man responded? I'm ter I think that's one of the reasons I've been joking around so much is that I'm genuinely terrified to hear one. I thought it was a skit maybe, because it's so bad. So not only does he respond, he stitches it.

So he is actively linking himself to it with this. You listen here, Davy Crockett. Look at yourself with your raccoon, [00:07:00] raccoon hat. Outfits that don't make sense. People calling it style. You just look like a furry. Yeah, I said it. You're a furry. So basically, call it whatever you want. You're a furry. I could care less.

I don't like furries. I could care less. So, you're gonna say this is evidence. You guys saw the clip. I'm looking at my phone. You're back here. A girl's turned to me. I'm getting a girl's Snapchat because I remember it vividly. I was getting a girl snap, cause she was bad as hell, why would I not, you know what I'm saying?

Getting a girl snap, heads touch, our heads are literally touching in the video, you're behind me. RECORD HIM! RECORD HIM! Well, you did record me, and you didn't get shit. You and your comment, and your little 3 million followers of furry, lesbian, I don't like them. Bitch ass motherfuckers. They need to get out.

They need to get out of my comment section. You guys need to get off my dick, okay? Get out. Like, you got your hair from the Grinch's nutsack, dude. Like, it's just, this is blasphemy. [00:08:00] I don't know if you're religious. I would assume not by the way you dress and act and do all this false accusing me. I'm innocent.

I didn't do anything. I've never met you. I would never do anything to a girl like that. I would never touch a girl without her permission. You I'm gay! I'm gay! I'm gay! So what's your case there? What, are you a girl? A guy? I couldn't tell you. I'm gay. What? What? You think I'm gonna go touch a girl if I'm gay?

Yeah, I said it. I'm gay. Get outta here. This needs to we need to put an end to this, girl. Cancel her. Get her out. God, dude, like I saw your hat on your first video. David Crockett. 200 years ago. I don't even know how long. 100 years ago, 200 years ago. Raccoon. That's all I gotta say. You escaped the cage.

Number 37. I was working the zoo. You escaped. Get out of here. Yeah. What? I'm I'm very, I'm confused. Yeah. I don't even understand what happened. There's so many things, [00:09:00] I think my brain's malfunctioning. I know. There's so many things to, yeah, yeah. So he is accused. Okay. He stands accused of groping a woman.

Right. He comes on to face said accusation and basically says, you're ugly, you're a furry, like you're too ugly to assault. Right, right. Which is the exact response that guys that get rejected do all the time. Trump said that. Trump, that was one of his. Oh my God, I forgot about that. I made a video about that.

Yeah. Yeah. Almost exactly. He said, I would choose to do Yeah, she's not attractive enough for me to assault, which, uh, has the, you know, that's not what assault is about. Uh, in a video in response to someone saying you assaulted me, he's saying, I'm getting a girl's number. I'm getting her snap. Look at that.

Look at that. But that's all I'm looking at her. She's a baddie. I'm also gay. He's not gay. You see this constantly though, [00:10:00] like literally anytime, which proves to me that he was trying to do something and got rejected or blown away or like, you know, pushed off. Hold on. Hold on. I have to do a different one.

So that's his second response to the same. So let this is before that. Hold on. Okay. I didn't realize he made multiple, multiple responses to the same video, which I'm assuming is for cloud. Cause these got millions of views as well. I was harassed and groped by this random man. I did not know. I did not.

Yes. Uh, I have a confession. No, I fucking don't. Uh, you think a guy that gets binged 315 is ever touching a Grinch ballsack hair looking creature like that? Like, Raccoon number 3070 escaped the cage, found a phone and got it on TikTok, and then started like making videos about me? I think not. Uh, seriously though, I uh, I would never touch a woman without [00:11:00] consent, and especially not that kind of species.

'cause the raccoon man, like, get the fuck up. He's stomping the camera there. So he's saying, I didn't assault her because she's unattractive for the listeners. He's like, I mean that, that, that raccoon thing. Then he takes his phone, he puts it on the floor and he stomps it because that's the sane way to respond, right to, yeah, I didn't assault her.

Let me stomp you. Let me metaphorically now. And physically. Stomp on this physically. Yeah. Okay, hold on. He's almost, here we go. Personally, she looks like she got her hair off of the Grinch's nutsack. Like, come on boys, like, you really think, like, when did we start listening to, like, furries with raccoon ball skin on their head?

I am a little confused, but, you know. That's his first one. Uh, obviously reusing jokes. Uh, because she has green hair. By the way, it's, uh, blue. It's blue green. It's teal. Mm [00:12:00] hmm. So You know, as far as jokes go, that one's not even accurate, but you know, what can we expect from this guy? Right. But he, uh, he's really into the green ball sack Grinch joke, which I guess he thinks is hilarious because he's using it twice.

The raccoon and the Grinch one were both. Yeah. The, oh, escape from the zoo. It's like, I personally don't think that, you know, uh, essay accusation on TikTok is the proper time to try out. My stand up routine, my misogynist, you know, Matt Rife special, but, uh, yeah. And then he's like, so he degrades her. He's basically like how ugly she is.

Oh, come on guys. And he shows off his muscle. I benched 315 or whatever the hell he says. So I'm too muscular to hit on, I'm too muscular to assault her. She's too ugly for me to assault her. And also like seriously, seriously, she's too ugly. [00:13:00] I would never, I would never grope a woman. It's like, I don't know, man, cause you just degraded her.

You're calling her an animal and then you're fake stomping her. There's zero doubt in my mind that this actually had like that. That's like as close to a confession as you can get, right? Like what the whole, that's not how a logical person I'm not, this, he's not a very logical individual, but how a. a person that was genuinely caught off guard, right?

Would react, right? He's, he's not, he's not like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Where I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know what this happened feels like he's more mad that he got caught instead of mad or upset or confused by why he's being addressed or brought out in this way. Like, that's all it feels like is like, how dare you like say that I wasn't allowed that you should have been thankful.

For this look at you and look at [00:14:00] me and you have the audacity to say that, that you're offended by something that I didn't do. It, it feels like Trump. You're right. I feel like it does. It absolutely feels actively, like straight out of that kind of, uh, that playbook of, of, of how to deflect accusations about your, your behavior, right.

To just push it off on like, like, uh, The misogynistic tendencies of the people that he only cares about impressing or in that situation. Like the fact that he's trying to come on there and be like, like gaslight everyone to be like, I'm so much cuter than her. You think? I'm like, yeah, absolutely. I do.

Absolutely. I do. And it reminds me of like, there's a scene in Juno where, have you seen Juno? Yeah. With, uh, okay, with Elliot, uh, Paige, uh, where the character of Juno, who in the film is the gender is a girl, uh, that character, [00:15:00] Juno is at their locker and this like jock kind of, you know, sporty bro, it's does sound bullies, bullies Juno's character.

And Juno has this big speech about like those type of guys. always are mean to us type of alt girls because they secretly want them. They love that look. They just don't want to admit that they do. And like, I think that is so true that like, like it's almost like it's more insulting to him. That alt girl, that alt girl, like I w I would never be interested.

It's like, he's more. He's more interested in how that looks. And it's like, you think, you think the problem is like you going for an alt girl, but I, you know, I think it's equal parts like, Oh, I'm not into that. Cause like those guys are always. Don't want to admit what they're interested in which you know, sometimes it's actually men Um, but [00:16:00] in this case, it's also like I think it's somewhat that where it's like I don't like but it's also like I want to move blame and focus From I did a bad thing to let me insult this woman.

Let me degrade her Let me make her the butt of the joke versus me The receiver of a probably completely true accusation. Mm hmm. So it's like, it's just, I, I just can't imagine being accused of something like that and my thought being let me just absolutely try to annihilate her. Let me call her, like, let me come up with some quote unquote funny lines about how gross she is.

And, and speaking of gross, guess how many likes that video has? 22. 7 thousand. His response has that many? Both his responses do. End of episode. I mean, everybody [00:17:00] thinks he did it. Like, there's not a single comment that doesn't think he did it. His response is what you would think. Expect, and not in a good way, from a junior high school boy who got accused of liking the nerdy girl.

Right? Yes. Or the girl, the one is like, when he actually did have a crush on her, and then it came out that he liked the girl, the one that wasn't popular, and he's like, oh, I'm gonna trash her. And so when you apply it, it's not even, to what both of us have said already, it's not even that he is, he doesn't care that he was accused of groping her.

He cares that, that. Other people would question his status be by being attracted to someone that is not of this kind of the, the, you know, the conservative, uh, standard for what is attraction and attractive in that, that world. It's that you hear this all the time with, um, women of size that, that where they, [00:18:00] uh, where guys will absolutely be into them and attracted to them because they're beautiful.

Right. But the second they start thinking about it. Uh, oh no, no, I was, I would never, why would I ever, have you seen me, have you seen me? Well, I mean, it's such a common response from these dudes that like, like you'll be at a bar to your point earlier and like someone will try and buy you a drink and you'll reject them and they'll be like, well, I thought you were ugly anyway, you're not even worth my time.

It's like, that's obviously not true because you just, Tried to flirt me and buy me a drink. Right? Like, but their, their response is so quickly, you're like, you're, you're hideous. You're disgusting. It's like, Mm-Hmm, . They cannot handle it. And then on top of that, there is the level of, she has a huge following.

I think he's absolutely like rage baiting and trying to use her clout because he's stitching her. Mm-Hmm. , he's trying to tap in to her following, which by the way. His profile, like he keeps talking about [00:19:00] Free Bo, because his name's Bo. His, his profile is ThatFreeLion, L Y I N. So now his whole identity is, is trying to just, you know, rip any bit of clout from this poor woman, who he's assaulted probably, seemingly, that's what she's saying, if we take her at her word.

And it's like, so it's not enough that. You assault her. It's not enough that you deny it. Now you get online. You verbally degrade her. You say you want to stomp her. Mm hmm. And then you try to use her for clout. Mm hmm. Can you imagine? And it's a genuine strategy too. Like there was a, uh, I found out from someone, I'm going to be as ambiguous as possible here while still making the point.[00:20:00]

Um, but there was a, uh, a person that I stitched that, uh, they were very excited because apparently their management team had made a list of creators they were targeting to try to offend. And I was on that list. Uh, and so, and I felt like, because they wanted me. To, to BFN because they're going for the opposite of my target devil.

They went, yeah, misogynistic dudes, basically, uh, this person. And so they kept on trying to get me to debate them live and to come on and do all this stuff. I've had that happen. Yeah. And it was all because, and I, I felt, I mean, it's still, I'm standing by the video is still up. There's a hundred guys I've responded to.

So I'm not really going to get down at who it is. That's why I don't want people to go look at this page, but I felt, I feel Genuinely felt like I fell for it. Right? And I was like this is I gave you exactly what you wanted Uh from that situation and that's one thing is like content creator to [00:21:00] content creator But imagine putting yourself in her shoes you go to a concert you get assaulted by this absolute d bag Okay Then you go to the internet praying you can get some justice or get a guy's name because I can say from personal experience like gropings happen all the time especially like at clubs at concerts that kind of thing and you so very rarely get any justice like let alone like know their name you know what I mean they usually it's such an easy crime to get away with in big groups.

So she is able to use this, this immense following that she's built. Probably I can't, you know, those followings take a long time and a lot of dedication. She's able to use that to get the name of the guy who assaulted her. And then that guy decides to use His crime against you for clout. Get on there, degrade you, call you ugly.

Say you're not attractive [00:22:00] enough to assault. You're an animal like classic misogynist. You're an animal escape from a cage. I would rather stomp you like you, you can watch a video of the guy who assaulted you telling the world that you are worthy of being stomped and then having 24. So all of his videos, like.

Between 20 and 30, 000 people liking the video from the guy who assaulted you. Because the implication is, even if I had, you should be thankful. Right there. There were, um, there are videos. This reminds me of a couple of our clips from our show. I've posted, um, about you. The one episode was talking about getting hit on.

And one we've talked about in several episodes, but there were a bunch of guys that were like, Oh yeah. And they're talking about you. They're like, Oh yeah. And then she's going to complain when, uh, she's lonely and they aren't hitting on her anymore. And I'm like, she's married to a woman. Right. And it's because it's the, the very, cause the only, the only, Even in [00:23:00] these very clear examples of where it's bad, where guys are acting bad, when they're doing bad things, objectively bad things, they still find a way to be like, Oh, well, but you're still going to miss it.

If it's when it goes away, you're still going to complain. No. Nobody is going to miss that literally nobody is missing being groped in a, in a concert or a club. Nobody is missing, uh, being assaulted. Right. There's never been a person that's been like, Oh, I remember those days fondly. Right. It's, it's such an absurd talking point, but it happens so much because it's spread in that community.

Right. This, this like Andrew Tate ish style of community where they believe it. To have, you know, over 20, 000 people like a video where a man is degrading a woman who believes he assaulted her, like, to have, like, 20, 000 people. People are like, this is awesome. [00:24:00] You, the way that you're degrading her after you probably assault her, because the vibe is not that he didn't do it.

Like, I mean, in the comments, like, usually you can get a read whether people think they did or didn't like every comment I have seen is that he a hundred percent did it. Yeah. And yet people are liking it like they think it's funnier to see a man Degrade a victim than they think it's important to support the victim of a crime The lack of empathy and again, like I just think about her like now, maybe she does I don't know how she feels about this like And um, I I just try to put myself in her shoes Like I can't imagine like I can think of anybody who's done this to me that I knew You To think of them making a shitty ass video, making dumb ass jokes that are just, they're bad jokes, and they're offensive, and they're dehumanizing, like, and saying you're too ugly to assault, and then [00:25:00] having 20 plus thousand people like it?

After you've been assaulted? That's crazy. I've seen in, uh, in videos responding to the horrible guy, like genuinely terrible guys like this. They're the common defense randomly will come up from guys that are scared of being, uh, accused of something they didn't do. And so as a result of that, Fear that's only spread among these circles, right?

The, of the, of these other guys that are spreading the sphere, they will even, they'll go in and defense of guys that are clearly guilty of doing the thing. Yeah. That they're afraid of being wrongly accused of, right? Because they're like, no, no, we have to defend every single guy. Or, or else when it, when I, the, the nonsensical idea that all these guys are getting accused of things they didn't do right.

Uh, that, that when it does happen to me. Then I'll, I'll have everybody on my side too, right? It feels like this very much, this, this weird [00:26:00] camaraderie about, uh, where they defend these really heinous things. Well, yeah, I mean, I think they see something within themselves. They have participated in the scale of bad behavior.

They identify. with the perpetrator because they have participated somewhere on the scale and they defend the behavior because to condemn him is to condemn themselves. We see that all the time, but when we live in a world where we have convicted child rapists who go to the Olympics after they serve, how many, it was, what was it a year?

It was some absurdly short sentence. Yeah, it was supposed to be four years. Yeah. When they can do that, when we have the Brock Turners. The first person I thought of. Right? These are convicted [00:27:00] people, let alone the fact that most rapists will never see. The inside of a jail cell. The idea that these men hold so tightly to false accusations is absurd.

If you are more afraid of false accusations than actual crimes, you got a big problem. Truly, truly, your focus is off. It's also, there was a study, I wish I'd looked, I, I, I said I didn't know where this was going, I would've looked it up ahead of time, but Sorry. They were in, in the UK, no, no, that's fine, but, I never would've guessed this is where the conversation would go, but like, there was a, a study in the UK, I know, of, for, of accusations about assault.

Uh, and they found out the ones that were false, and, and, but, and, For what it's worth. I don't think anybody will disagree. False accusations are bad, right? We all agree. And they do happen. And they do happen. And the reason they're bad is because they also take away [00:28:00] from people that are actually assaulted from getting like from their ability to get justice.

Right. We're all against false accusations, right? Uh, there's nobody here. Cause I've had guys get like, The act as if somehow being pro speaking about this sort of stuff means, Oh, you're okay with it. Then you're okay. No, nobody's drama. And yeah, it's such a, but the, uh, there was a study that looked into it and of all the, the, over, over a matter of years that, uh, there were two false accusations that ended up to, and this giant study that ended up going to a courtroom and not a single one ended up being true.

leading to any sort of, uh, like it was, it was over, it was proven. Now, like I said, there are people that have had their lives, it does happen. It's, I'm not saying it's 100 percent mathematically. The chance of it happening is so obscenely low that for it to be this, this fear at the forefront of so many men's mind is absurd.

It would be like not [00:29:00] leaving your house or talking about getting struck by lightning constantly. Right. If having that be a fear, that's just always on the forefront when you don't live anywhere, but there's any lightning that exists, right? It's such an absurdly small number of times. It happens that while it's bad, it should not be, uh, it's not like it happens so often that they, that, that it should be at the forefront of all of these guys minds at all times.

Well, it's also like. You know, I'm not constantly afraid of setting myself on fire because I'm not playing with lighters all the time So what I mean by that is like if you're constantly afraid of a false accusation or an accusation That leads me to believe you are participating in things that you think could be construed the wrong way.

Because you're not, like, massively afraid of something, especially when the statistics are so low. Right. Unless you are [00:30:00] probably participating in sketchy behaviors. And the other thing is like, I, you know, I used to have these arguments a lot. I mean, I still do technically, but I'm to the point where like, I don't believe that at all.

Like, I don't believe that these men are that afraid of false accusations. I, because it just, it statistically doesn't make sense. Like it just doesn't. Uh, you know, I, I think it is a straw man argument. I think it is a deflection. I think it is a way of shifting who the victim is. Like, let's not pay attention to these real victims of, you know, essays.

Let's pay attention to the imaginary man that could be, someday, accused versus the real life woman who was assaulted. That, to me, is [00:31:00] logically completely ridiculous. There is no world in which a logical person would draw that conclusion as the potential future man somewhere someday being accused as the priority.

Logically, that doesn't make sense. So it has to be emotional. It has to be wanting to focus on that. Or it's almost like, it's a fear of them one day being held accountable for things they've already done. Right? Yeah, 100%. I remember an argument I got with somebody online. This is in my pre creator days. It was when I just would, Argue with people in forums on Facebook.

Um, but there was the, what there was during the Brock Turner, uh, time. And, and there was a guy that was like seriously in defense of like the, the fact what, what, like you've never gotten blackout drunk with a girl and, and gone back to your room together, blah, blah, blah. I'm like. No, no, that's not. Oh, and he was, he was like, well, you can't hold people responsible for [00:32:00] when they're, when they're, when they're drunk, people say yes all the time when they wouldn't say yes, when they're, and it was this, he was, it was, that's a crime.

Yeah, it was absolutely absurd and getting likes from, from other people. Older. It was a lot of older men. It was like these men in their forties and fifties, uh, the X, this is like a while back, but it was, they're all like, yes, yes. Thank you for saying what we are all. And it was absolutely, it was like, it was, I could not believe what was happening, uh, in publicly.

And these are, this is on Facebook, people attaching their name to the comments that they're saying. That's how comfortable they are though with this, this feeling. You look at like videos of women who are talking about their experiences, stuff that has happened to them. And men will be all over their comments being like, not all men.

We don't all do that. Blah, blah, blah, blah. When I see videos like these, I don't [00:33:00] see those same men who are out there saying I'm a good man, nor not all like that. Then where do you show up online? You show up in women's comments yelling at them as opposed to show up in bad men's comments Defending women and what you say, you know to be right Why is that comment section full of women being like you've done this?

Like, even if you didn't think he did it, the way that he degrades her and dehumanizes her and makes a joke out of her, that you like? You like that? I guarantee you there will be people in the comment sections, because this is, I'll give another example from another video of mine too. That are blaming her for not knowing that's what you, you sign up for when you're in a crowd.

Yeah. It just, what happens in concert, if you don't like it, don't go to the concert. There was a video I stitched of a bartender, uh, once that talked about how, uh, how many women will [00:34:00] say no originally, but after a few drinks, they're okay with giving out their numbers and getting, uh, and, uh, and I'm obviously made a video responding to that.

And the amount of comments I got were like, that were like, well, if you That when you drink, you're more likely to start doing things than it's your responsibility to to just not ever drink or not go to a bar. And so immediately putting it off of the perpetrator and onto the just because, uh, you might be a little bit more.

Open to suggestion when you're drinking, you should then never be allowed to go in a public area with alcohol. It's your own fault. Chesco. Let me, let me regale you with this. I posted a story about a personal experience. Now. The actual story was about how it can be dangerous to be friends with women who are pygmies In the sense that they will put a man above a woman put the validation of men above their friends [00:35:00] And what happened to me was I was with my friend She wanted to get with this guy.

She invited two people over to her dorm room I was already like going to bed. Like I was in bed and I had taken my medication again Which is for bipolar, like, I have to take it, but it makes me sleepy, and it knocks me out, like, you know, I don't know, five, ten minutes, maybe. And I was in bed already, covered up, and this guy was like, I really don't want to sleep on the floor, you know, it's cold out, can I sleep next to you?

I swear to God, I won't touch you, I'm not gonna do anything, like, going on and on. So I was like, whatever, but I'm going to bed, don't touch me. He's like, oh my god, I would never, I would never. Mm hmm. Then I, so I'm like, my back is to him. And then I feel a hand go over my side after five minutes when I look asleep and he puts his hand, no, luckily he got to my waistband and I jumped up.

Thank God. And I had [00:36:00] what little, like, I'm talking like I had minutes before my, my medicine knocked me out. And again, I had taken it before they had gotten there. I did not know they were coming over. So, so I run to the bathroom. I tell her he has to leave. She fights me that he should stay cause it's snowing.

He's like, I want home, it's snowing. I'm like, get him out of here. He just tried to assault me like, and then they hooked up. I'm like, okay, I guess my assault didn't bother you. Um, but anyways, so I tell the story, you know, that's just part of the story. The same, the focus of the story. I had people in my comment section telling me it was my fault.

Why would you take your medicine? Like, why would you do that? Like, if you, if you know that your medicine makes you tired, that's really your fault, you're not being very responsible. I'm like taking my medication as prescribed before bed, because I didn't know a man was going to lie to me and then [00:37:00] assault me like, what, I'm not joking comment after comment to the point that I literally like cried.

It doesn't even make any logical sense that there's like, sometimes you can find the reds that there's. How dare you take your medicine in your apartment, in your bed? That is absolutely absurd. I didn't know this guy. This guy was a stranger. And like, well you let him in your bed. Well, you're the one that took your medicine.

Like I'm like, yeah. Cause he lied to me. I mean, he was. Like I very clearly remember because I was like, what he's like, what guy's going to actually, who wants to assault you when you're asleep? Like, that's so weird that guy, I guess, but like, he was so genuine. He was like, Oh no, I would never do that. And it's like, yeah, I had, I had multiple comps and I just had, um, the creator, she just posted a video where a guy.

Was, um, touching himself, like really, [00:38:00] she's, she's on a beach and he was blocking her exit and doing that. Like blocking her exit and she's, she's filming herself because she's like, I don't know what to do. She's, I mean, you go into like this panic thing, right? She's like, I can't get away from him. Uh, and so, you know, she's, she films the whole thing cause she wants a record of it.

And like, she's, you know, she gets his face on there because she's like, I'm sure she was like, I don't know where this is going. Like he could. Anyways, she actually did get away from him. Uh, she FaceTimes her husband to be like, Hey, there's another person here. And, you know, the guy's like, Oh, sorry, sorry.

Like, sorry for, for that, and then her comment section was flooded with both men and women who blamed her for being there, who blamed her for filming it, who blamed her for not leaving fast enough, who blamed her because she said like, I come, I come to this river, this stuff happens [00:39:00] all the time, um, blamed her, they're like, well, if it happens, why do you keep going back?

That's on you. Like, This laundry list of, like, thousands of comments, like, I don't even know. But there were so many that blamed her for that incident. And I was like, whoa. Because honestly, I think And you know, we talked about this and I would say she shares similar sentiments. It's like, the thing that happened is bad enough.

And if something bad, if you're assaulted in any way, shape or form and like, contrary to popular belief, I told a story about that, like a similar situation to what happened to her, like someone doing that publicly at you and not allowing you to leave. And I had so many people in my comment section go, that's not essay.

And I'm like, it's literally legally essay in my state. Like literally. By definition, like, okay, well, maybe by definition, um, but it's not physical. I'm like, [00:40:00] Hey, if it's by definition, it is, that's how it works. That's how definitions work. That's why it's a like, they're like, well, maybe legally it is, but not really.

It's like, no, legally is what it is. And it's not like you even live in, like, a super, like, liberal state. No, I don't. That is a sexual assault, okay? Because it's not harassment. It's way more than harassment. And so many people were arguing, that's not the right term. I'm like, that's what you're focused on?

Anyways. Right. Of course, because anything but to address the actual problem. I think about that instance when people were arguing with me about the definition of S. A. Um, which, again, they were wrong. They were wrong. Like, they weren't even right. Like, they're just, ugh, ridiculous. But, like, That video and her video and my video when I was talking about that guy, um, the actual Assault is bad, right the actual crime the actual whatever is bad in the real world [00:41:00] It's bad enough if someone doesn't believe you But when it comes to putting stuff online Like it is almost more damaging than Like the response is almost more damaging than what happens because it is so Unbelievably painful to have all these people online here Your trauma and then like strangers from anywhere blame you for it.

It's like again 22, 000 people per video that he degraded her after he by her words assaulted her like Would you say that to her face? Would you, would you like to look her in the eyes and tell that you would like that? They wouldn't, they wouldn't. They're all, most of them are fucking cowards. Cowards!

That would only say that, that, that stuff online. It's, it's absolutely absurd. I'm sitting here fuming. And to be [00:42:00] fair, this is not, I'm not angry just because I have daughters. But I'm sitting here terrified. Of knowing that every single woman I know has a story like this, right? I didn't, I've never experienced stuff like that as a, as a child.

I never, ever had to worry about those sort of things. I don't have any sort of, uh, childhood memories or stories or even like young adult stories of going somewhere and having to deal with someone blocking my path or, or doing anything. And like, there's, there's the only stories I have are from other men being violent or trying to start fighting.

But none of that, that stuff, and especially the amount of women I hear tell stories of it happening when they're my daughter's age, right? Most of the stories I received about when I told my story were under the age of grade school. Majority of them. Oh, it's just, it makes, I don't even know what to say.

It's just, it's so upsetting that this is just a reality and that there are people out there that are still just defending it as if it's not a [00:43:00] problem. You're not a good one if you think that's funny. You do not count as a good man, as a protector, if you think it's funny. When a guy is degrading a woman he assaulted online, you're not a good one.

And if you think you prove you're a good one by fighting with women online, by arguing with them about the definition of S. A., by arguing with them about whether they deserved it, If that's what you think a good man is to live in a woman's comment section and fight her rather than To do anything to stand up for women And and to talk with the men that are bad if you want to Not be associated with that if you want to separate yourself then have conversations Then call out your friends then call out people online because you have no problem calling out women who don't talk about their assault correctly.

You would rather [00:44:00] correct a woman who is not describing her assault correctly, rather than call out a man who has assaulted someone. That's insane. And I think people need to start realizing, like, if you're investing your time in one rather than the other, then you're not by definition being a good man.

And they don't see it. If you're more concerned with being called a good man than actually being a good man, that's, that's, you're not like, that's, that's where it comes down to. You have a right to call out those behaviors. Like if you see that shit, if somebody is doing that, like, there's not an explanation.

That's a, that ever is going to be like, if someone is telling you, like, Like, you know, something that happened to you, if they're questioning you, if they're blaming you, like, they're wrong, like, that's wrong, that's, that's not okay, and I feel like it's so commonplace, but like, it's okay to call out those behaviors, it's okay to label them as bad, because they are bad, that's bad, that's not good behavior, that's not kind [00:45:00] behavior, and like, everybody's, like, there's so many people, I mean, myself included, like, who walk on eggshells, You know, trying not to say men, saying toxic men, because you don't want to upset men.

Because I do love men, contrary to what toxic men online say. But it's like, and then you have these examples of people openly being heinous and awful. And all those up, those people who love to comment, where are they? Like, where are the, where are the good men here? Like, where are they? And it's the, what you'll see often, and you see this like with celebrities, you see it with scandals, it's, you can tell a lot about somebody, not by what they believe, but by the things they choose to voice their anger at online.

Yep. Right? You, you can say that you're angry at both men who do that, And about this other women who are doing something existing, right? Uh, on, on the online. But if the only person you're making Facebook posts about that you're yelling at in comment sections [00:46:00] to that you're making your own content, but whatever it is, if the only people you're talking about.

are the women, then that's, that's way more telling than anything you want to say or do or, or talk about when it comes to your actual beliefs on something. You defend who you identify with. Period. It's like the same guys who will like defend, uh, Woody Allen. I'm like, red flag. If you defend, point blank, red flag.

Or like Shia LaBeouf. Like everybody's like is coming out like oh, he's redeemed. It's like what he's accused of very serious crimes Essays by his partner his ex partner FK twigs Including giving her a lifelong disease that he willfully gave to her Right? Additionally, even the woman he's with now, Mia Goth, right?

Maya Goth? Mia? I think it's Mia, isn't it? I'm bad [00:47:00] with names. Cool, so I think it's Mia Goth. Mia Goth, I found a video, it came across my feed, where he like, somehow he was recorded, he was in an altercation with her and got pulled away from the scene, and he literally says he would have unalived her if he would have stayed there.

This is the woman that he claims saved him, saved him. He, uh, in the interview, he said with her presence, her presence saved me. She was there for me when no one else was. And it's like, Hey, this is my, this is my platform. My soapbox. If you're sorry for what you did, take the charge period. If you committed a crime and you're sorry, we have a legal system for a reason.

Take the charge, admit to the crime, admit to your friends, say what you did. Say it loudly. Say it to all the people who you probably gaslit. Say it to all the people who you convinced that you were innocent. And all the people [00:48:00] who condemned, because if there's ever a woman and a man who are saying different things, there's a flood of men who are accusing the woman.

Go tell all them. It's not enough. Like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm on my redemption tour now. It's like you don't get to do that It's like you don't get to give forgiveness when you're not the offending party So it's like I just think it's insane how often we do that. We're like, oh, well, he's sorry. It's like well, he's He's not in jail and he committed crimes.

The reality of the way our both legal and societal system is right now is the amount of evidence it takes for someone to have any sort of repercussions. It's like, it's, it's the guys that have been doing it like for, for decades to dozens of people. The, the idea that one person to do to one, uh, that a man could do something to one woman, uh, and actually have faced.

Consequences for their actions is [00:49:00] almost, and it's the sad reality is it's, it's almost impossible. It almost never happens unless they're willing to admit to it. Like you said, to your, to your point, unless they're willing to actually take accountability for what happens, they're going to just be able to eventually ignore it long enough that people will say, well, we moved on now.

I just did a video on this because it's so popularized, particularly in movies, but like the broken man who takes out his trauma on the woman who loves him, like she is the vessel of his pain and his trauma and she suffers whatever amount of abuse until he decides to change. You know, because what, you know, the false idea of the good woman, like she was good enough that he changed, which is bullshit.

You could change any time you just, for whatever reason chose to change. Because what is the message there? It's that every woman before every woman, like the body of women in your wake. We're not good enough. It's on them. That's the message. But you have these men [00:50:00] who have harmed so many, like so many people, like, you know, there's stars that have done it, but there's people in real life too.

I think we all know people who have harmed others and like, they really don't see any repercussions and they just get to be like, Oh, I'm better now. You know, I've, I've, I've really worked on myself. I've decided I'm redeemed. They never suffer the consequence of what they did. They don't suffer like the actual crimes because a lot of crimes happen to women.

Like actual crimes. If you, if you like said what happened and could prove it, these men would be in jail. Um, You look at that, and like, it's not, it's, it's the gaslighting of their victims, it's the social repercussions that the women suffer from the men, you know, they're alienated, you know, they, their, their reputations are ruined, like, there's so much that these men do, that like, they just get to decide, oh, I'm better.

And then the woman who have lifelong consequences of their [00:51:00] crimes and their bad behavior just get nothing from that. Like, they just are supposed to be like, what? Like, okay, I guess you're healing. It's like, if you are truly sorry, you don't get to decide when you're forgiven. You don't get to decide what it takes.

Like, that's not how it works. Like, there are, there is a legal system, and certainly the victim of your crime, Deserves more than you just saying, Oh, well, I'm not like that anymore. I've learned yeah through her Through her pain like you used her as the literal Vessel of your trauma and you walked away and she didn't like that's crazy to me I just think it's such a bizarre Thing that we allow for to be like, oh, they're they've changed even though they never they just don't do anything to Like not only do they not do anything to to make up for it or like face consequence but like They're not redeemed in the eyes of their victim.

They're just [00:52:00] redeemed by the eyes of other men. It's I just, I just, I'm baffled by it. I guess along those lines, any, uh, any final thoughts on, on the video or on the interaction? I guess we should say, I think it says a lot about how certain men see women. I think it says a lot about how toxic men view assault.

You look at the two ends of. Of this interaction, a woman desperately looking for the man who assaulted her. Mm hmm. And the man who assaulted her is stitching that video for clout and to degrade and humiliate her and get likes. There is a market that exists now where you can get rich off of your assault.

If, as long as you assaulted the right person, as long as you hurt the quote unquote right type of person, you can, uh, and there's a market for it. And you can, [00:53:00] you can absolutely make a career off it. And that is, you know, a terrifying reflection of our current circumstances of our society and why it's important to have episodes like this and why to keep talking about these issues.

I 100 percent agree. It's just, it's just like, she's looking for justice and answers and he's looking to get a laugh out of the boys. I assaulted you physically. Now let me also assault you metaphorically, I guess. Let me, let me, let me continue my onslaught into you. And bring in literally over 20, 000 people per video to join in on you being the butt of the joke.

Mm hmm. Like, that's crazy. And like, I think it's just a true testament to, like I said, the experience of men and women, um, online and socially. And, you know, I think in theory, It's easy to talk about issues in theory. It's easy to talk about like, you know, how men will be like, [00:54:00] well, what about a false accusation?

You know? Um, it's very easy to have those really intellectual conversations. Not that that's an intellectual conversation, but it's in theory, right? It's not a practical, it's not tangible. Um, but then this is such a strong. Very tangible example of the reality of what it's actually like when a woman comes forward Having been assaulted with a video of the guy how that goes for her and the the actual damage of an accusation which is clout and You know combined probably a hundred thousand likes for him.

That's the damage he got thus far. Now, I don't know. I'll, maybe, we'll do an update if I hear anything about, um, him receiving real life consequence, but as of now, he's just making silly stitches. So, damn. Yeah. Where can they find us online, Regan?

Where can you find us? [00:55:00] Here. Sometimes we're like, how do you? No. I think it's good. Not every episode ends good. You know, it's just the reality. And I think it's good to have like, you know, I always like having examples. So like any, now everybody listening, if somebody tries to come at you with these arguments, it's like, here's a real life example that happened.

Um, but as for us, uh, if you want, you can join our Patreon, which we have the pre show and fun things there. And we have our socials, which are, I don't know, they're just all there. You know how to find them. They exist. You probably have seen them. Um, and, uh, other than that, just a reminder to be good. Being a good person is an active choice.

If you want to be a good person, then actively do things to [00:56:00] better yourself and the world around you for others, not just for yourself. I think this is a reminder for all of us to actually be good. stand for what we, what we preach, you know, be a voice for people. If you see something shitty, say something.

This isn't just, it's not just misogyny. It's not just sex, you know, it can be racism, homophobia, you know, any of these issues in which someone is being put beneath, like, stand up for the things you believe in and be active. You don't have to be a content creator to do it, right? The more important, if anything happens in real life, that's where, that's where 99 percent of the most important interacts are happening when you're actually calling it out as it happens when you're safe to do so, obviously.

A hundred percent. Always an important caveat. Yeah, yeah. And if you're in the group of power, it's super important you have those conversations because whatever group, you know, whatever group has the privileges, like, They listen to someone within their group more, far more than they'll ever listen to someone who they see is beneath them.

So have those [00:57:00] conversations. Uh, and, and um, if you're listening to this, I would imagine you are someone who is actively trying to be a good person, I would think. I think, because of our topics, but, uh, if you are, thank you, and I appreciate you. So thanks for listening, thanks for being one of the good ones, and, uh, we'll see you next week.

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