Walking into Walls and Falling Down Stairs With Guest Elie Mystal

Michael talks with Elie Mystal about America has forgotten about making good policy while being obsessed with Trump and how both parties have fallen down on the job when it comes to African American voters. Elie Mystal is The Nation’s Justice Correspondent—covering the courts, the criminal justice system, and politics—and the force behind the magazine’s monthly column “Objection!”