PB-Voicemail Ep 052124-mast ===

Paul Adelstein: [00:00:00] Hi Sarah,

Sarah Wayne Callies: hi Paul,

Paul Adelstein: hi Sarah,

Sarah Wayne Callies: hi Paul,

Paul Adelstein: um, welcome to a very special episode of prison breaking with Sarah and Paul. We've, which we've been promising for a while, which is.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Yeah.

Paul Adelstein: Uh, we started a telephone line. Remember those? Do do

Sarah Wayne Callies: do do do do do do do do do do. That's my phone. This is kind of our Christmas special because it's gonna be full of good vibes.

Paul Adelstein: Oh, nice. Yeah. It's our Christmas all our shows are full of good vibes.

Sarah Wayne Callies: But fewer shanks. And um,

Paul Adelstein: Although we don't know, we haven't listened to these voicemails, our producer Ben has, but we haven't. So we could get shanked on the phone line.

Sarah Wayne Callies: We actually don't know what's coming. It's possible that these are [00:01:00] voicemails full of people being like, we don't like you at all.

Go pound Sam.

Paul Adelstein: And we're gonna shank you.

Sarah Wayne Callies: I'm gonna shank you. Although

Paul Adelstein: I have a sharpened spoon.

Sarah Wayne Callies: I've been filing my toothbrush for the last six weeks. Um, but So we made

Paul Adelstein: this telephone line, and which is

Sarah Wayne Callies: Which is, um, very Gen X of us.

Paul Adelstein: What's the number?

Sarah Wayne Callies: Okay, wait, what's our number? It is 401 3P BREAK. Did I get that right?

Paul Adelstein: Yeah.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Okay. 401

Paul Adelstein: 3P BREAK. So we made We made this Number 401 3P break so people could call in and telephone us, telephone us, leave us messages about the show, about the podcast, and that we would comb through them, pick some of the ones that spoke to us, and we would respond. So that's what we're going to do.

Spoke to us? We have not heard these. We've heard some of them, but not these, Ben has picked them out so that we can be surprised.

Sarah Wayne Callies: So the question that we asked was, [00:02:00] uh, who did you watch with? How did you find the show? What were your favorite sort of prison break rituals? Part of this question came up because Um, my friend, Erica, who lives in my town and is a, uh, I think third generation farmer.

Farmers work from sunup to sundown. She was raising two kids and prison break, she told me, was her one hour a week where everybody left her alone. She was like, I'm turning on the show. I leave the babies in the crib, give them bottles, keep them quiet. tell the cows we are not milking. This was her one hour.

And it's sort of funny because in her mind and life, it's very tied up with like, the only thing that was hers that she didn't have to share. And that kind of got me thinking about, you know, what that, uh, If there were other stories like that out there. So without further ado, maybe we should ask our producer, Ben, by the way, [00:03:00] everybody, this is our producer, Ben, the finger on the controls.

Um, maybe we should ask him to play our first voicemail.

Paul Adelstein: Ben, please play voicemail number one.

Voicemail: Hi, my name is Cody and I live in Illinois. I am actually only two towns over. From the Gilead prison. I started watching this show just a few years ago by recommendation from my best friend, Tara. Ironically, she had mentioned that this show was about breaking out of prison and it took place in Gilead, Illinois.

And I said, oh my gosh, that is all of 20 minutes from me. I need to start watching this show. Needless to say, I have been watching ever since. Although I did not watch it when it originally aired, I would have been about in eighth grade at the time. I am now 33 years old. I watch Faithfully Now and it is something my best friend and I have bonded over.

She recently flew out here so we could tour the prison and to our surprise, the hole that they dug in the prison is still there. It was an incredible [00:04:00] experience. It was so fun to see. And I just wanted to call and say that this show is one of our favorites. And we now get to enjoy listening to the prison breaking podcast together.

Thank you for everything from two very loyal fans.

Paul Adelstein: Oh my goodness. Aw, Cody. Cody and Tara. Okay, first of all, Uh, the hole is still there? That I was, I was going to get to that, but like, I love that they went and toured. I didn't know you could tour the prison.

Sarah Wayne Callies: You know what? I did know that because every now and again, fans will send me pictures about like, here I am at Joliet.

Yeah. In fact, I think that might be. All that's left for the prison right now.

Paul Adelstein: Is the

Sarah Wayne Callies: hole? I don't think there's anything. No, I just mean like, they're not using it for anything else. Let's also guess about where Tara came out from, because Tara flew out. I'm saying, in my mind, Tara lives in, um, Sri Lanka, and she booked a 17 hour, each way, five leg flight.

Paul Adelstein: I was gonna say [00:05:00] Kansas City. No,

Sarah Wayne Callies: but she flew. Wouldn't you drive from Kansas City?

Paul Adelstein: You could, certainly. You

Sarah Wayne Callies: totally

Paul Adelstein: do. I'm from Kansas City.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Cody, thank you for calling us. Um, if you decide you want to post a picture of you and Tara, um, at Joliet, um, at Fox River, uh, tag us in it. We'll, we'll post it. We're super excited for you guys.

Um, yeah. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for your call. And given that you were in eighth grade in 2005, this might be the first voicemail you've ever left. So, thank you. Thank you so much.

Paul Adelstein: Wow. All right, should we go to the next one?

Sarah Wayne Callies: Yes, please. Take it away, Ben.

Voicemail: Okay, so first of all, I'm really excited for this opportunity.

Um, I want to tell you who I used to watch Prison Break at first. Um, so I grew up in an ultra Orthodox Jewish community, and it was highly forbidden [00:06:00] to watch any kind of television, movie, whatever. Uh, but we couldn't resist Prison Break because it was really the best show ever, and still is. So I had a friend in high school that she would somehow download the episodes to this mp4 video player she had.

And we would all gather around in the gym of our school and just watch the episodes during recess. And that was such an excitement and it was like the best time of my life. And now I'm just waiting for my son to be old enough to watch, rewatch it with me for like the fourth time. And just thank you so much for this podcast.

It's so, so, so interesting. Listen and, you know, go back down memory lane and enjoy every piece of information that you both choose to share. And Sarah, personally, I got to tell you that you've been my first feminine role model outside of that [00:07:00] community that I grew up in, which I don't, do not belong to anymore.

But, um, you showed me how I could be a woman and share such a, Wide range of emotions and be so free with yourself and so authentic. So thank you very much for that. And Paul, you're, you're okay, dude. Thank you, . Wow,

Sarah Wayne Callies: that's really amazing. Um, I didn't see that coming, you know, one of my kids asked me why. It was the mom, why?

Why do you do this? And my, like at the heart of it always, my answer has always been, I want to expand the conversation around what it means to all the different ways that we can be women. Because when I was growing up on TV, there weren't. It wasn't that broad a palette that we were given to paint with, um, [00:08:00] so our caller who didn't leave her name, but, uh, thank you.

I mean, that's kind of the most meaningful thing I could have possibly heard, um. I'm just trying to a little bit keep my emotions in check, but. That just

Paul Adelstein: goes to the efficacy of the thing you committed to. It's really cool. I also love, on a lighter note, I mean, she didn't say it was a yeshiva, she didn't say it was a Jewish school, but I would assume given that she was in an ultra Orthodox community that it was.

So the idea of a bunch of kids gathering around in a gymnasium with contraband, essentially, is kind of like. Contraband MP4. Great mirror of the show itself, which is like. They're gathering in a place to like secretly do a thing and maybe they had a, you know, possibly in uniforms, somebody watching the door to see if they're, you know, if they're gonna get busted.

Put it away. That was, [00:09:00] you know, that was the currency of that was kids figuring out how to get the thing they needed. Something

Sarah Wayne Callies: unexpectedly. So fun. subversive. I want to make space or, or, uh, sort of take a moment to just acknowledge that she grew up in a household that said, that made it forbidden, that said, you know, you can't participate in this kind of thing.

And what she just said was, I can't wait to share this with my kid when they get older. And I think that's incredible. Kind of cool to be like, you know what? Um, I'm going to choose to parent, um, in a way that comes alongside my kids and listens to those stories together and, well, how cool will it be for that kid to hear those stories?

Paul Adelstein: Yeah, that was very moving to hear that. That

Sarah Wayne Callies: was extraordinary. Thank you so much, friend, for that call.

Voicemail: Hi, well, my name is Maddie and I apologize in advance for my English because it's not my first language. [00:10:00] Um, I started watching Prison Break when I was six. My sister, who is eight years older, introduced me to it.

And every Sunday at 8 p. m. we would sit in front of the TV and we had our own watch party. We would gather pillows and blankets and got our favorite snacks. And we watched it together every single week. And those evenings were pretty special for us as sisters. And we made sure to keep it that way as long as the show was on the air.

Um, it gave us some secret language. We bonded very much because of the show. Nobody else understood what we were talking about, just, just us. You know, we were freaking out when we found out that season five was coming out. We, we were rewatching it from the beginning. I, I remember, um, being a kid and telling my She's my favorite kindergarten teacher that I wanted to be a doctor just like Sarah Concreti.[00:11:00]

Um, I believe she, she couldn't possibly watch the show because I bet she'll be quite concerned. The fact that I was six at the time. Um, But yeah, thanks to the show, um, my sister and I got so many opportunities to spend more time together. Um, we'd always be connected because of the show. We traveled the world.

We went to conventions. We got the chance to talk to Atworth and he was incredibly kind. So yeah, thank you for all the memories and what you're doing right now. It just takes us back to our childhood and our special bond that's given. Becoming stronger because we're listening and watching this together every single week and every single Tuesday.

So thank you again for changing our lives and just creating such a great memories.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Thank you, Maddy. I don't know about you, I underestimated what it would be like to [00:12:00] listen to these. This is so cool. Okay. All right. So many things, the conventions, Part of what has blown my mind over the years. is meeting people at conventions who come in a group.

There'll be like three or four or five people, and they met on a fan forum, and they're from different countries. They clearly developed these friendships that extended. Way beyond the show, but they'd met chatting online and then it was like, well, I, I wanna go to this convention, but I don't wanna go alone and I'll meet you and we'll hang out together for three days and go to dinner together.

And like, there is something so beautiful to me about that. Um, and I just, it just blows my mind.

Paul Adelstein: I I love that. I love that Maddie said that she and her sister with an eight year. Eight year age difference. She said that we had our, it [00:13:00] gave us our own language. It gave us a secret language is what she said.

I love that. We could talk about stuff and nobody knew what we were talking about. I mean, do you have that with any, you're an only child, right? Am I making that up?

Sarah Wayne Callies: I am an only child. Um, my, my mom and I used to watch Murder, She Wrote together. That was our shipple. Um, which is a very gentle show about the most dangerous place in the world, really, if you think about it.

Cabot Cove, Maine has like a population of 1, 500 people and somebody dies every week.

Paul Adelstein: I mean, just if that Maybe that woman comes to dinner, just, you leave.

Sarah Wayne Callies: I mean, Jessica Fletcher is clearly a serial killer. Um. Correct. But yeah, there was something for the years of my life when being a teenage girl and having a mom was a tough fit for both of us.

To be able to sit down with an oasis of, you know, there will be a ceasefire, [00:14:00] this show is the DMZ, I think was beautiful for both of us. How about you? Did you have shows that you watched with your siblings? Um.

Paul Adelstein: Um, yeah. For sure. Um, I would tag along to certain shows with my sister at one point. She's seven years older.

Um, you know, I think, I think in my family, uh, it was sport, you know, there was some serious sports bonding. I think it works in a similar way. Um, we were fans of a team, not from, not from the city we were from. And so there was, there was a kind of, us against the world feeling about that.

Sarah Wayne Callies: You were fans of a team that was not from Chicago?

That's unheard of in Chicago.

Paul Adelstein: My father is from Cleveland. And we were raised to be Cleveland Browns fans.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Oh.

Paul Adelstein: Which as I always say prepared me for the humiliation and perseverance it takes to be an actor.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Sure. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, the [00:15:00] constant sense of rejection. Yeah. Um. But

Paul Adelstein: yeah, there's something, I mean, like, I love that, I love that Maddie said secret language because that's like, yeah, this is our, this is our thing, this is what we do together.

They make the pillows and the blankets on the floor. It's just.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Mm hmm. Also, um, and. briefly, uh, shout out to her English, which she said was her second language, and which she executed more flawlessly than I have ever spoken a second language in my life. So, big ups to you.

Paul Adelstein: We'll be right back.

Sarah Wayne Callies: We'll be back.

Yeah, Ben, why don't you, um, play the next one, and I'm gonna go buy some waterproof mascara and see if I can get through this one. Hi,

Voicemail: Sarah and Paul. My name is Rachel, and I wanted to answer one of the questions of when I started watching Prison Break and who I started watching it with. I started watching from the very beginning with my dad.

Um, he watched it literally every single week, and at the time I was 16. [00:16:00] Probably around nine years old. So probably shouldn't have been watching it, but I remember loving it and getting back into it when I was in college and it got put on Netflix. So I watched it then with all my roommates and got them really into it.

Um, so it's been something that I've enjoyed for a really long time and still love to this day and rewatch it probably once a year. So thank you guys. Love the podcast. Bye.

Paul Adelstein: Aw, thanks, Rachel. Thank you, Rachel. That's so cool.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Please say hi to your dad for us. Oh,

Paul Adelstein: that's so great. Yeah. And, uh, I love that you're watching it once a year.

I hope that the time you're watching it Yeah,

Sarah Wayne Callies: and I hope, um, I hope the uh, the watch parties are fun for you because you can kind of watch with us. Yeah, that's what I meant. Maybe hear the silly tidbits of like, oh my God, that's how dumb they really were in that moment.

Paul Adelstein: Yeah. Yeah. I had just eaten, I had just eaten a peanut butter and jelly [00:17:00] sandwich before I dipped you in the water, like whatever, then.

Right. Behind the scenes. BTS. BTS. Oh, I was gonna say, I was gonna say this, do you, are there shows that you watch with your kids?

Sarah Wayne Callies: Yes. Yes, and they are usually shows that I wouldn't watch otherwise, that I end up loving. For instance, big Brooklyn Nine Nine family, because my kids have a six year age gap, right?

So like, uh, like Nettie and her sister,

Paul Adelstein: That show is, that show is amazing.

Sarah Wayne Callies: It's insanely good. So we, we do a lot of comedies. It was Brooklyn Nine Nine, Superstore, and Community. Those are the three. I loved

Paul Adelstein: Superstore.

Sarah Wayne Callies: How about you? How about you and your, uh And your kids, do you have?

Paul Adelstein: My, me and my kid, Brooklyn Nine Nine was one, for sure, and then I ended up being on Brooklyn Nine Nine.

What? I mean, I guess you didn't remember.

Sarah Wayne Callies: No, no, wait, no, I did because I texted you. Do you remember this? This was like five [00:18:00] years ago. And I was like, holy effing shit, you're, sorry,

Paul Adelstein: this is me. Brooklyn Nine Nine, Parks and Rec was a big one for us. But when my kid was younger, and it was kind of that, like, what are we gonna, like, do I really gonna sit here and watch Barney?

Because that's tough. No, no. Um, there was Adventure Time. Adventure Time, which is incredible, because that show is definitely for kids with, uh, adults can watch this.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Mm hmm. I, I will say my youngest is, um, constitutionally unimpressed with what I do for a living. And the one time he's ever really, like, been moved by it in any way, um, we were doing, uh, the NBC, uh, big press junket thing.

When I was doing Council of Dads and I, Terry Crews and I were standing next to each other and I was like, listen, I'm so sorry. My little dude is an enormous [00:19:00] fan. And Terry, as it turns out, is the nicest person in Hollywood. He like lit up like a Christmas tree. And before I could even say, I'm so sorry to be this person, but do you mind if I, he was like, let's take the pictures.

And I was like, wait, what? And like whipped out his camera. Like, Took a couple of pictures, was like, so hugely kind about it, and then I showed those pictures to my son, and he looked at me for the first time like, you might actually be on to something. Like it, it was. Really? Um, it was very humbling. Yeah. He was like, my mom is an actor because she knows Terry Crews.

Paul Adelstein: Yeah. I, I think the only time I got any juice in that way was, uh, I did a show that Amy Poehler produced and she was on set and I got to introduce her to my daughter when I was about eight. That's amazing. And she was really, she was psyched. Yeah. I don't think she was impressed with me [00:20:00] or my job, but she was, she was very

Sarah Wayne Callies: You were the conduit to Amy Poehler.

Paul Adelstein: Yeah.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Speaking of you, first of all, Rachel, um, please give your dad our love.

Paul Adelstein: So they, they really just think that we're, that we're just conduits.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Yeah, 100%. Yes. Um, but Rachel, please give your dad our love, um, and thank you for calling in. I now want to read, we had two people email us who were, for whatever reason, not able to, uh, call in.

I'm going to read you one of these, um, because it's very much about Paul and I think it's really, really important. Cool. Um, this is from Lindsay, um, Icon. I think I'm saying that right. I might not be. It's A Y C A N. Lindsay, I apologize if I'm saying your name wrong. She says, Hello, Sarah and Paul. First off, I'm not sure if you'll remember this, Paul, but several years ago, maybe even 10 years ago, you were in an elevator at the Sutton House in Vancouver.

And two women walked in, you had a hoodie on, [00:21:00] and one of them said, I feel like I should hear bells ringing. And you said, well spotted, ladies. Anyway, that was me and my mom. I was of course referring to Kel's Bells, which in the fandom was used to describe the beginning of Kellerman's scenes. I can't believe I haven't been using that phrase all this time.

Sorry, that was me editorializing. The letter goes on. Many years later, I wasn't sure if I was going to tune into your podcast when I first heard about it. I'm not sure why I had reservations really, other than maybe because prison break had such a huge, had been such a huge part of my life, oh my god, almost 20 years ago.

And I was likely afraid that it wouldn't be the same, which it wasn't. It was almost better. But I'm glad, but I'm so glad I did. I've only listened to the first episode so far. I think you're both super funny and really so smart. And hearing the inside deals, details of your experience is honestly just really cool to listen to.

I'm sure you get letters and emails and DMs from all over the world all the time, but you really should know how important PB was to many people. Watching Prison Break [00:22:00] got me through Teacher's College at the time. Its fandom brought me friends, a writing group, people who I've stayed in contact, who I've stayed connected to for almost 20 years, people who've watched my kids grow up, fan fiction writers who are now published authors.

Yeah, it sounds crazy. My husband has a line he says at least once a week depending on what we're streaming because I'll pick out somebody, usually T bag or haywire or bellic, and he says, it always comes back to prison break, doesn't it? He liked the show too. He wasn't as fond of Wentworth as I am. Smiley face.

Uh, as a teacher and now a VP, I think that probably means vice principal, I'm told all the time that I've made a difference in kids lives. It sounds silly in the grand scheme of things, but you've both made a difference in mine. Please keep the podcasts going. It's funny how society and media has changed.

It's really interesting to listen to you both. You sound like great friends, but also great professionals, and I'm pretty sure great humans too. If you're ever looking for a superfan or someone to just give the outsider's perspective of [00:23:00] watching and living and breathing the show, I'm all yours. Be well and take care of each other.

Lindsay. Aww. Wow. Do you remember this moment in the, um, in the Sutton Place elevator?

Paul Adelstein: Yes. Yes. Yeah? Yes. Uh, we were working on, uh, Girlfriend's Got a Divorce, I believe, is what we were shooting. We were going up in the elevator and that happened and she still says to me, well spotted, ladies.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Bravo. Lindsay, you became a bit of a meme in Paul's life.

Paul Adelstein: Um, be a bit of, a bit of a bust, bust meme on me. Um, but I do, yeah, I do remember. And um, what a great letter. What a great letter. And I'm also so glad that she likes the podcast because the last, you know, one of our worries is like, is this gonna, I hope people like this.

Sarah Wayne Callies: That's true. The letter could have ended with, and please stop ruining the memories. Yeah, stop

Paul Adelstein: ruining this [00:24:00] wonderful thing I love.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Totally.

Paul Adelstein: Um, what a great one. Thank you. This blew

Sarah Wayne Callies: my mind when she said, Fanda brought me friends, a writing group, et cetera, fan fiction writers who are now published authors.

Please if you used to be a Prison Break fan fiction writer and you are now a published author, take photo of a book that you've written and tag us because I am so curious to see what you're writing now. I, did you start writing out fan fiction and now you're writing science fiction? Are you now writing David McCullough level tomes of historical relevance?

Um, that's really, really, really cool. Also, congratulations on not only getting through teacher's college, but becoming a teacher. And, uh, now becoming a vice principal, and thank you for your service to our young people.

Paul Adelstein: Okay. I'm going to read the, uh, another email that came in, um, from TK, that's T E E K A [00:25:00] Y.

Hope I'm saying it properly. And this one reads, Hi Sarah, parenthesis, not Sarah. End parentheses without an H, that is. Paul. I hope this message finds you well and healthy. Due to my current location abroad, I'm unable to dial the 401 number. However, I wanted to share a brief account of how I first discovered Prison Break.

As one of the original fans, I vividly recall being introduced to Prison Break at the age of 14. I wasn't a fan of 24, so my cousin in New York persuaded me to give Prison Break a shot. Despite not catching the pilot episode, his captivating synopsis instantly piqued my interest. My journey with the show began in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where my family had just relocated.

Cable TV wasn't available there at that point in time. Access to the internet was near impossible. For that reason and only that, I resorted to unconventional and unethical methods to catch the pilot, a bootlegged version of it. I was hooked immediately. Keep in mind, most people [00:26:00] still used to rent VHS tapes to watch their favorite movies and shows blockbuster style, but much tinier and very local back then.

Newer shows like Prison Break would always air a week later than they did in the States, and so every single week for four years, I would head to this guy's little DVD rental store, as local as it gets, to get the latest episode. Had to be there first thing because you only had one DVD per episode.

Burned it into my PC, took about 12 hours. Converted it into an MP4, another four hours, in order to watch it on my iPad after school. Those are the best days of my life. I was a freshman in high school, had just moved to a new country. Not my first, but always exciting. So I didn't know a lot of people at that point.

The inmates and the rest of the characters were kind of my only friends actually. I remember writing an article listing my favorite shows of all time a few years ago. Prison Break was and will always top that list for me. The best show ever. Anyway, I'm so happy that you guys are kind of bringing it back with this podcast.

I currently live in France. Technically, I live in a [00:27:00] van and I'm traveling around Europe and I just finished re watching the whole show for maybe the 12th time. Not kidding. It just never gets old. Looking forward to engaging with your podcast and sharing more Prison Break Memories, Kindest Regards, TK.

Wow. Um. You know, just when you thought that the digital world made everything so easy, here's a guy that was having to change it through formats that took 16 hours.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Dude. TK with the full commitment. That's like 20 minutes of effort for every minute of entertainment. Um. Dude. Also, I'm building a whole backstory in my head for what TK's parents did that moved him all over the world.

Um, in my mind, they were like international spies and now he's traveling through Europe in a van trying to right the wrongs and avenge things. I might have seen Argyle and it, it got my head going. Um, what a cool, [00:28:00] very, very, very cool. It's almost like a, um, Cinema Paradiso moment of like what it takes to watch a show back then.

It's We will be right back. Okay.

Paul Adelstein: All right, let's go back to some voicemails. Ben, um, hit us with the next voicemail.

Voicemail: Hello, Sarah and Paul. This is Simon from Hertfordshire, which is just outside of London, here in the UK. I absolutely love Prison Break and have been a huge fan from when it first aired. The span of the show spanned my late teens into my early 20s, and in a time of my life of such constant change and the ups and downs of late adolescence going into being a young adult, Prison Break was a constant comfort to me.

And by the time the fifth season aired, I was married and managing my own business. So thank you for your amazing work and providing a comfort show for me and so many other people. [00:29:00] I actually love Prison Break so much that I host the only other Prison Break rewatch podcast, from a fan perspective, with my friend who is a first time watcher.

We've also been podcasting One Tree Hill for the last four years. I know what you're thinking, Prison Break and One Tree Hill, the TV show combination that no one asked for. We love it, at least. Thank you again for all that you do, and I'm loving re watching with you. So, thank you. I

Sarah Wayne Callies: got, um, I got a little shook up there.

Paul Adelstein: Me too. What is with us?

Sarah Wayne Callies: That was beautiful. What is with us? I mean, it's gotta be the hormones. Um. Okay, here's what I love about this. I love Thank you,

Paul Adelstein: Simon.

Sarah Wayne Callies: that Simon, who's clearly from Wichita and doing a pretty passable British accent I gotta say, it really wasn't bad. wickedly

Paul Adelstein: good Hertfordshire accent.

It

Sarah Wayne Callies: really wasn't bad. It's a hard one, the Hertfordshire. It's a hard one. No, what I love about it is that his life [00:30:00] Was in my imagination so chaotic that a show where somebody gets murdered, usually by you, once a week, brought like stability. I'm like, um, but that's so beautiful. And I, I love that, uh, by the time season five ended, he was like running a business and a family and everything.

Paul Adelstein: Very, that's so cool. That's amazing. It's like growing, it's like growing up with people.

Sarah Wayne Callies: It kind of is. It kinda is. What were those shows for you when you were that age? Did you have

Paul Adelstein: the like, oh, this is gonna

Sarah Wayne Callies: get me through this week in junior high?

Paul Adelstein: It was different than, I had a couple, um, there was the, there was the shows like I couldn't miss.

Mm hmm. Right, which was when I was younger, was like Happy Days.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Mm hmm.

Paul Adelstein: And then it was like Hill Street Blues.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Oh, that was sophisticated. And

Paul Adelstein: then I went through a brief Love Boat Fantasy Island period.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Yeah, for sure.

Paul Adelstein: But I was, then it was [00:31:00] like, it meant I was home alone on a Saturday night and it was kind of depressing.

That's it. That's it. Um, but the, the way that it worked in those, those days was that the syndication would, you know, on one channel, like when you got home from school, there'd be like three Brady Bunches on, then three Dick Van Dykes on, then three, um, what were the other, like Laverne and Shirley's or Happy Days.

There were all these shows that were like, they would play like, oh, and MASH, from like 4. 30 to 6. 30, they'd play four episodes of MASH.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Aw.

Paul Adelstein: Um, so it, that was a kind, it was like a daily routine, like there was, that was different from like, I can't miss this story. That would be more like the Hill Street Blues.

Was

Sarah Wayne Callies: there anything that was like, ugh, these people feel like my friends, they're gonna get me through the horrors of, maybe, maybe middle school was horrible for you.

Paul Adelstein: MASH. MASH and Happy Days. Oh, and when I was little, little, like, was Starsky and Hutch for some [00:32:00] reason? I couldn't believe that that guy's name, real name, was Paul.

That the actor's name was Paul. It blew my mind. In fact, played, he played Starsky. That they got me a iron on t shirt for my 8th birthday with Starsky and Hutch on the front. And on the back it said, Paul and Hutch.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Awww.

Paul Adelstein: Which doesn't even make sense. What were yours? Did you have any?

Sarah Wayne Callies: I mean, they weren't particularly highbrow.

The only one I'm thinking of, I was a Beverly Hills 90210 fan. Wait, were mine?

Paul Adelstein: Were mine? Well,

Sarah Wayne Callies: no, but like, I mean, Beverly Hills 90210, I'm a little embarrassed to admit, but I did. It was like, there was something about it that I loved. You because I was very much in high school when that was going on. Um, it's, it's never occurred to me that Prison Break could be that for somebody, because I think of the show as like, such a heart pounder, do you know what I mean?

Like a do do do do do do do do do. [00:33:00] Um, but I think that's really sweet, Simon from Wichita. Um, also, Simon sent us the first episode of his rewatch podcast thing to listen to, and I thought it was super charming, and really, really lovely. Um,

Paul Adelstein: Yeah, I listen to it too.

Sarah Wayne Callies: And uh, The way

Paul Adelstein: they do it is, uh, I don't know, should we plug it?

Um, is it Simon is, Simon is watching it and his friend is watching it for the first time and he's kind of taking him through it. It's a really charming format, frankly.

Sarah Wayne Callies: What's fun to me about it is that He gets his friend to guess what's happening next. His friend is, is trying to figure out where this is all going.

And if I remember right, there were some sort of funny ones about, about especially you and I.

Paul Adelstein: Yeah. I love that. I just, I just keep going back to like Simon being like, this was like a touchstone thing for me to keep coming back to.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Which is so sweet. All right, Simon. So send us a picture of you [00:34:00] and, um, of you and your buddy.

Um,

Paul Adelstein: I think the podcast is called The Ravens.

Sarah Wayne Callies: I think The Ravens might be a reference to One Tree Hill because that I believe was the team. So, I do, to your point, Simon, that Prison Break and One Tree Hill seem not to have much in common. I will say, in the six degrees of Dr. Tancredi, I have worked. With two thirds of the female leads of One Tree Hill, I did a colony with Joy Lenz, who is one of the most aptly named humans I've ever met, just a total radiating beacon of joy.

So she wears

Paul Adelstein: glasses? She wears glasses?

Sarah Wayne Callies: Yes, because she has lenses. That's right, Paul. Would you take your cynicism for just a moment and shove it where the sun don't shine? I say Joy Lenz and literal and you go to glasses? That's terrible. That's terrible. Okay, fine. Okay, and who's the other one? Hillary.

Hillary. Hilary Burton, who I believe is now Hilary Burton Morgan, [00:35:00] um, we did, uh, Counselor Dads together. They're both sensational actresses. I mean, just truly, truly wonderful. Um, so there you go. It's not that big a leap between Prison Break and One Tree Hill. One Prison Hill Break. Oh,

Paul Adelstein: God, stop. Oh, man. This has been incredible.

Uh, we obviously need to do more of these because this, this made my day.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Oh, man. This is extraordinary, and I hope you guys also have a, enjoy listening to each other's It's really cool to hear your voices, for those of you who can call in. For those of you who can't because you're abroad, I'm so sorry, I didn't realize the phone number would be tricky for you, um, but of course it is, so, uh, feel free to email us at prisonbreaking at caliber, that's C A L I B E R dash studio dot com.

Paul Adelstein: What a, um, cool [00:36:00] and warm community of watchers and listeners for a show that's not really that warm. Thank you.

Sarah Wayne Callies: You know, although it makes me rethink that assessment of the show that maybe at its heart, this is a show about people who show up for each other in extraordinary ways and go to great lengths to be loyal, even when that's hard.

Yeah. Yeah. Um. Sort of revised my understanding of the show from this somewhat bleak and violent Kellerman Killfest into something, um, much more,

Paul Adelstein: don't blame me.

Sarah Wayne Callies: I'm blaming you.

Paul Adelstein: Don't blame him. Uh, thank you everybody for participating. There's going to be. More of this for sure.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Yeah. Many thanks. And our main show will be back before you know it.

We will see you there. In the meantime, you're welcome to catch up on any episodes, uh, [00:37:00] that you haven't heard, or you can join the Patreon community and you can listen to the watch parties with us, whatever you choose to do. We love you fish. I love you fish. Yeah. Paul has a cold, cold heart. And

Paul Adelstein: um, just for, I love you too.

Uh, , just for condition's sake before we come back. Mm-Hmm. . Don't go to prison. And if you do go to prison, remember to.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Have your friends from the fandom that you've made send you a cake from the outside with a nail file in it so you can get out.

Paul Adelstein: Oh my goodness.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Or better yet, remember to wear waterproof mascara.

Paul Adelstein: All right. So good. All right. We'll see you soon.

Sarah Wayne Callies: Okay. Bye guys.

Paul Adelstein: Prison Breaking with Sarah and Paul is a Caliber Studio production. Your hosts have been friends, but not besties, Sarah Wayne Callis and Paul Edelstein. Our prison warden has been producer Ben Haber. Keeping us slim and trim in the prison yard has been sound designer and editor Jeff Schmidt.

[00:38:00] Keeping us up to date on the outside world is production assistant Drew Austin. Letting the world know what's been happening to us. Our music was done by Paul Edelstein. Our prison artist, logo, and brand designer is John Nunziato and Little Big Brands. Check him out at www. littlebigbrands. com. Follow us.

Us on Instagram Prison Break Podcast. Email us at prison breaking@caliberstudio.com and call us at four oh one three PB Break Prison. Breaking with Sarah and Paul has been at Caliber Studio Production. Thank you for listening.