EWB 4.3 V1 pre ss Nick: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to Eyewitness Beauty, the podcast where we talk about the biggest stories in the beauty industry each week. I am Nick Axelrod Welk, joined by Diamond the Creek Bomb herself. Hi! We are not going to be on video for our Patreon subscribers, just FYI, because And he's renovating her rental apartment, which is something that we, I mean, didn't we talk about this on the podcast when I renovated my house, my rental house and then got kicked out and then they stole it and yeah, then they moved in. So, anyway, explain to explain to the users of this podcast, what your reasoning is. Annie: Okay. Well, so somebody came into this. Very old apartment building [00:01:00] in the late seventies, early eighties, and renovated just my unit and just the lobby and my bathroom, let's, let's say they spent, they clearly spent all their budget on the materials and like, not on the labor because it is a Mickey, have you ever heard somebody say it's like a Mickey mouse job or it's been Mickey moused? No, Nick: I feel like that has like racist roots or something though. Annie: Everything does now. It probably sounds Nick: like it does. Yeah. Anyway, continue. Annie: First of all, you don't, you don't have to be a caulking expert, an expert in caulk, like I am, to know a bad caulk job when you see one. And there's also, so they put in these huge marble sheets all over the bathroom, which are great. I loved it upon first glance. I was like, this is so cool. Incredible. It feels like towel. And then you Nick: started to, you started to see the quote, the, the quote unquote cracks in the, and then ilk the, then that Annie: first [00:02:00] bath, that first bathtub. I like looked underneath the lip. And there was just, I mean, we're talking the darkest shade of mold, but then I googled mold. I Googled black mold. Not all black mold is bad for you, but I did where. Like, uh, one of those, like, special N95s with the vent. In the Nick: bathtub? Annie: Well, when I was renovating it. So then, as happened the last time I renovated this bathroom, I took an Adderall on a Saturday morning, which Normally I don't do because it's not a work day, but then I started ripping out all the caulk and then I, and then I realized, Oh, I can't take a shower here. So I've been showering at the Equinox, which also means I have to work out at the Equinox. Are Nick: you, are you hiring a new person to put new caulk in? Annie: No, of course not. That's the best part. You're Nick: going to do it yourself. Why would Annie: I let somebody else do the fun part? Yeah, I already did. I already did the under the under lip of the bathtub. So that's [00:03:00] done. And you know what? Nick: Did you get like mold killer to like, make sure that it's not just like growing underneath the caulk? Annie: Oh, absolutely. I sprayed everything down with bleach. This is what took so long. I sprayed everything down with bleach. Let it sit. How Nick: did you know to do this? Annie: Oh yeah. I mean you do all sorts of research along the way, but mostly intuition. I mean bleach mold. And so, and then I dried it. So Dyson fan drying everything in there for like a day before I, but the trick is. This is a, this is a tip if anybody wants to recalk their bathtub, you have to fill the bathtub with water before you caulk it because which seems counterintuitive because as you know, like, moisture and caulk do not mix if you're like caulking something, you really want it to be bone dry for the caulk to stick. Otherwise it'll bubble. But you want to fill the bathtub with water because the bathtub will. With all the [00:04:00] weight it will slightly like drop and so you want it to drop before you put the caulk in. So then when you take the water, you drain the water, it'll come back up and it'll create like a really tight seal. What you don't want to happen is you caulk it when the bathtub is not dropped with weight from the water, because then once you put water in it, it'll crack the caulk. Nick: Meaning, meaning that there's, it's almost like suspension, like. It's like a one of those cars on like hydraulics where like the bathtub goes up and down depending on how much water is in it Annie: Yeah, I think it's just called like gravity I don't think it's like hydro. I don't think it's hydraulics I mean But so anyway now I have to do The rest of it and yeah, I can't take a shower. I can't use my bathroom. Nick: Okay Well, do you want to hear about my nightmare? Is I got this poster. From the 19 [00:05:00] Seventies, I believe of the tennis player. It's a poster for the French Open, which is called Rolon Guro tennis Match or whatever. Mm-Hmm. . And it's a picture of Bourne Bjo born B Bjorn Borg from behind. He's like the Owen Wilson in Royal Tenenbaums, or, what's the other Wilson? Jason Wilson? Luke Wilson in the Royal Tenenbaums is kind of an homage to Bjorn Borg. Anyway, I got this poster. It's from France and I got it for Rafi's bedroom. Guess what happened? like if you don't mount old Paper, you know, posters, prints, drawings, whatever, in the correct way, the paper can't contract and expand with, like, the moisture level in the room, like, you know, if it's hot or it's cold, or the, you know, humidity goes up and down, which will cause like rippling. So that's the nightmare I've been [00:06:00] dealing with and it's going to, I had to get a paper conservator, 800. Annie: 800. How much was the poster? Nick: 1500. Annie: Jesus Christ. Nick: That Annie: was your first Nick: problem. I know, but it's really, it's a cool poster. And listen, no one said I was a smart. That I was, that I was smart, period. That I was smart with money. Annie: I saw that somebody spent, who was it? Bruno Mars spent a billion dollars gambling. Yeah. And everybody was shocked. I bet you and I could spend a billion dollars in like a long weekend. Nick: Did I tell you? When I very briefly worked at Estee Lauder in LA like at the end of the, like, they're on the final, the fiscal year, not the like calendar year. So it's like in June or July, I forget which one. But anyway, like it turned out that like the marketing budget, there was like 1. [00:07:00] 2 million left that had to be spent in like 30 days before like the end of the fiscal year. And I was like, say less. My job was to spend 1. 2 million in 30 days. And I was like, I have been training for this moment my entire life. Annie: What did you do besides not besides not pay, pay me to do a sponsored post. Nick: I did wheat pasting in New York and LA. We did a photo shoot for the wheat paste posters. And then we did, which is like, did you use my friends? Music: Thanks. Nick: No, I, we used a place called, he had a funny, his name was like bear or wolf. Annie: Not Mike Weed. Nick: No, no. But I feel like everyone who's in this industry, industry is named like Mike Weed or. Annie: That's his real name though. I thought it was a, I thought it was a graffiti name. Cause there's a, there's a [00:08:00] crew here that does it. They're all like graffiti boys. Nick: But they, so they're like, that's the biggest scam in the book. They put up the wheat paste posters, then they desecrate the wheat paste posters, and then they have to, then they charge you again to clean off the graffiti. Genius. Annie: The, well, the, the feuding graffiti wheat paste families will wheat paste over each other's work and then. This is Martin Nick: Scorsese's next opus. The wheat, the wheat paste, the feuding wheat paste dynasties. Of New York. Annie: Mm hmm. Nick: Leonardo DiCaprio plays like the kingpin. Annie: My friend Leonardo DiCaprio? Nick: Yeah. Annie: Who I spent Saturday with? Nick: She walked past on the street, but okay. Annie: I saw, I, that was, I haven't had a good celeb setting in New York ever. Ever. Where I wasn't like planned to be in the same place as a celebrity, you know? Like, it wasn't like an event. It was just on the street and I was sitting there in a stoop with my friend [00:09:00] and I was in a very serious conversation with this person and then Leonardo DiCaprio walked by and it totally threw me off for the next two minutes. Nick: So don't they which is weird because I Annie: like normally don't get starstruck I like I feel like I'm too dignified. I'm like fuck that. I'm like, you're a normal person I'm not gonna treat you and I get Nick: starstruck by so one time in 2005 I saw Simon from the real world Paris at a bar He now looks much different than he did back then, but that was quite a moment for me. I one time took an elevator ride with Luanne, Countess Luanne. Annie: Okay, that's a good one. One of the most beautiful women alive. Nick: Literally, one of the best bodies. She's Move over Elle McPherson, Luanne's the body. Annie: I'm sorry, move over the firm. Move over Kate Middleton. We need to get Luann a title again. Nick: Oh, you're [00:10:00] right. Annie: How do we get her back in? Nick: Prince Andrew? Annie: No, we can't do that. Nick: She Annie: kind of likes it. I don't think she's his, I don't think she's his type. Nick: Anyway, should we get into top stories? Annie: You didn't read the article. I didn't read the article either. I just saw the It sounded annoying to me because It Nick: was an article in New York Magazine about, it was like, different couple, profiling a few different couples who have big age gaps. Annie: No, you're wrong. It was, it was an annoying first person. It was honestly felt like something I might write early on in my career, an annoying first person article that didn't need to exist about a girl that married a rich guy who happens to be 10 years older than her. But and she was like, yeah, 10. I know. That's what I said. I said, I thought this was an article about age gap relationships. Not like Nick: it's child's play. Annie: I didn't know you were dating a younger guy, which is basically what it is. That's me on a Tuesday Nick: night. Yeah. Annie: Yeah. [00:11:00] Like 10 years. You were saying, you were just telling me that 50 is too old for me, which is interesting. Cause that's only six years plus 10 years. Nick: I don't think, but that's six years is a generation. Annie: Well, this guy is Nick: how much is it? How long is a generation? 15 years. Oh, yes. A generation is 15 to 20 years. So yeah, that six, that extra six years pushes him into the next generation, which I think is the difference. Annie: What is, what is 50? Is that Gen X? Nick: Yeah. Annie: See, that doesn't feel too far off though. That's just one generation Nick: up. No, but like, but like, I am 40. I grew up with TV and VCRs. I remember getting a black and white Apple computer, Macintosh computer, because my dad who's a, now he's a book agent, but at the time he was an agent for software writers too, [00:12:00] which was a very emerging field anyway. So we like had, we were like, if you can write, Annie: I don't care, I don't care what it is. If you can write, I'll represent you. Nick: He was way before his time, but he represented. And so we always had a computer, but anyway, we, but obviously didn't have the internet. We didn't have the internet until I was, I want to say like 12 or 13, Annie: maybe like Nick: 14. I don't even remember, but like we only had it on the computer in the basement. Annie: Yeah. Nick: Anyway, so like, if that's me and I'm 40, then a 50 year old didn't even have that. Probably didn't even have internet in college. Annie: He didn't have a TV his entire life. Yeah. Nick: But that, I feel like some people just like grow up without TVs, but internet, I feel like is more defining. Annie: Right. And zero internet presence, which I find very intriguing. That's my favorite. Nick: Oh, well, I love that. But also, my other question is, how do you [00:13:00] like, how do you research a paper without the internet? Annie: What are you saying in particular to? Nick: I'm just saying for people who didn't have the internet in college, like you're hung over and you're like having to like cram to like write, you know, a 25 page paper. You're like, you have to go to the library. Right. But like the line for the, for the copy machine and the printer, if there even is a printer is so long that like you can't leave things to the last minute because like you'll be waiting on that line all day long. Annie: Yeah. Ninth grade, we had to do a big research paper where, without the use of the internet, where we had to go to the library, check out books and we had to have little note cards where we wrote down the, the source, Nick: an AP Annie: style. Nick: Do people still do footnotes? Annie: That's a great question. I got a book the other day where all the, all the footnotes were just [00:14:00] like, the writer's opinion. They weren't like, they weren't sources. They weren't citing their sources. They were just like talking more. Nick: I like that. I just want to say something and I just thought of something not just, but recently Music: I'm Nick: going to list, since we last recorded this podcast with the two niche women, here are all the celebrities that have launched beauty brands. Ready? Since, since the rock, Annie: we talked about this. Yes. In Dallas, no less. He probably walked the same Target halls as I walk when I'm back in Dallas. Exactly. Nick: The hallowed halls of Target in Dallas. Serena Williams launched makeup called Win Beauty, W Y N. Annie: Truly one that does not need to exist. Nick: Rita Ora launched Hair care called type B, B E a with an Australian beauty entrepreneur named [00:15:00] Anna Leahy. Not sure who that is. Famous for Annie: her hair, Rita Ora. When I think hair, I think Rita Ora. When I think Rita Ora, I think incredible hair. Nick: But Lana Del Rey's makeup artist, Etienne Ortega, launched a beauty brand. This is everyone, just in the last week. Just in the last week. Um, and there was one more good one. Oh, Travis Barker And launched an aftercare collection for tattoos. Annie: Why was travis scott on saturday night live? Nick: I mean, do we really want to talk about saturday night live and open up that can of worms? What's wrong with saturday night live? Have you been watching it? Yeah, it's I I know like the whole thing with saturday night live is everyone always says like, oh, it's Like the good old days are behind it. Yeah but I mean, the [00:16:00] past year, with the exception of like some cast members, yeah, with the exception of, of Bowen and Sarah Sherman and Chloe Trost, who I think is really funny too. And I think they're Trump impersonators. Really funny. It's so, I mean, Nate Bergozzi was a host. Do you know who that is? Annie: Don't know who that is. Nick: Exactly. Annie: Josh Brolin. Nick: Josh Brolin, but he's like, I guess, famous. Rami Youssef, who. If you didn't watch that show, Rami, which was on FX, I think, then you would have no idea who that was. It's just like, it's, it's, they're like, it's a lot of comedians, which feels like they can't book big stars. Annie: They had Dakota Johnson. They had Sidney Sweeney. Nick: Those are big stars, right? Annie: I feel like the beginning of the season last year, they had a bunch of big guest stars on, but yeah, Travis Scott though, it was very [00:17:00] strange choice. Which I think is a Chris. I think, I think that's a Chris Jenner thing. I think she's not going to let Stormy and Air's father. Oh, Shane Nick: Gillis was a, was a, was a guest a few weeks ago. Like what? He was the one who was fired before he started for racist or homophobic slurs. It's just been like a weird, I guess there have been a lot of famous people on like Jacob Elordi. Annie: Oh, I cried when Austin Butler did his monologue too. He was like, I watched Saturday Night Live with my mom, and then out of nowhere, he was like, and she's no longer with us, so I know she's looking down, and I was like, I cannot see Austin Butler in pain. I don't think anything bad should happen to him. Nick: No, the also the, I like the fact that since the Amy Winehouse movie, the Sam Taylor Johnson, Amy Winehouse, biopic trailer came out, [00:18:00] the internet has come back around on Austin Butler and all of the comments under the trailer for this like Amy Winehouse movie, um, are like, we need to get Austin Butler on the case because like this girl needed to do some like years long study of accent and dialect and intonation. Annie: Wait, who, who was being mean to to Austin? Nick: I mean the entire internet was making fun of him not being able to like drop the Elvis accent, like all the videos of like before Elvis and after Elvis how he like totally changed his voice. Annie: Oh, but I think that was just all in good fun. I think everybody knew that Elvis was a shitty movie because of fucking Bozz Nick: Lerman. Yeah, but he's not Baby Girl. He's not Jacob Elordi. Yeah, he is. I feel like the internet is not sure about Austin Butler. And they loved him in Dune. Annie: No, we love Austin, everybody loves Austin Butler. They know. Really? Yeah, he was in Dune. Everybody loved him in Dune. I didn't see it, but, you know. Nick: Okay, other beauty stories.[00:19:00] Annie: Clinique is going on Amazon officially, which, Nick: Which is, I feel like the takeaway from that was that it's a little, it's a little late for like, well, Lauder's obviously trying to like figure out how to get back on track, Estee Lauder, who owns Clinique and their idea is Amazon. But as you and I have talked about on this podcast, Amazon and premium beauty don't really mix. Annie: I feel like Clinique is kind of, um. It's so ubiquitous. I feel like it's expected to be on Amazon, Nick: you know, to me, the problem with any, any like, you know, brand selling on Amazon is because of like the way that Amazon looks and there's not like blue check marks as far as I can tell, like to verify, like, It all seems like you're buying it from the store. You know what I mean? None of it, it doesn't feel gray market that have you heard of the new earphones called loops? Annie: I have [00:20:00] not. Nope. Nick: They're like for sound sensitive people and they like come in all different colors. Like engineering styles, one for like, if you want one for a concert, a pair, if you want to sleep with headphone with, ear pods, if there's a pair called engage plus where like, you just like want less noise. Stimulation, certain vibrate, like frequencies or whatever. But anyway, um, this person I follow on Instagram was not doing a sponsored post. It was like, they're kind of amazing. My kids are super loud and screamy. And now it like kind of takes the edge off. And I was like, Hmm, that's interesting. Anyway, Annie: they're just, they're just earplugs. They're not, they're just earphones. Nick: No, but I don't know. Right. They don't play music, but I don't think they're just earplugs. I'm going to find out. I bought them because you can't figure out on the internet whether or not there's any like active noise canceling. Anyway, I went on Amazon and I like, couldn't figure it. Like, there's like 10 different retailers of these and I couldn't figure [00:21:00] out which was like the legit ones, Annie: right? Nick: So I feel like that's the problem with Amazon. Annie: Well, I mean, have you heard about how they do the inventory and the warehouses? Music: No, we're Annie: allegedly, all the products that are the same product, no matter what vendor they come from, end up in the same bin. So if you order like Clinique moisture surge, you might get one that came straight from water, the water factory. And you might get one that came from the godmother or yeah. Or the woman who was stealing, having her like gang of teenage girls steal from Nick: breaking bad for girls, Annie: breaking bad for girls. It might be a complete knockoff. They all end up in the same bin together. Returns apparently also. They don't have like a system for beauty returns. I mean, think about it. A lot of the Amazon workers are like seasonal employees that like are probably not trained up and don't really give a fuck about like where, you know, beauty products go. They don't like [00:22:00] I, that's why I wouldn't trust Amazon. Not for me. I'm not an Amazon beauty. I mean, I've definitely bought beauty products on Amazon when they've been the things that the really weird niche things that you can't find anywhere else that you already know you're taking a risk. You Nick: know, am I boring you? Excuse me. If we're boring ourselves, how the hell are we going to entertain anyone else? Annie: We did think an episode, a recent episode was going to be really boring and it wasn't. And Nick: it turned out great. It turns out that we're not as boring as we think we are. Are there any other like beauty stories that we Annie: have? No, I'm so, no. And also two new rules for the beauty industry. One, no more April Fools. You guys are not funny. Beauty girls are not funny. Nick: Beauty brands are some of the least funny brands that exist. And Annie: you've already, they've already done the [00:23:00] joke collaborations for real. Like the Cheeto collaboration was a real collaboration. So like if you're announcing like a Pringles collaboration for April Fools, Nick: it's like literally, I agree. This is, if you listen to Lost Culture, he says this would be an, I don't think so, honey, because. It is like beauty brands are not funny. Like we don't get the funniest people in the world. We get some smart people and some talented people. We do not get the funniest people leave the jokes to like Taco bell or you know what I mean? Wendy's, but like, do not like, it'll be like, say beauty, no offense, but it's like, here's like a green moisturizer to like, look more like Shrek or something. And it's like, okay, that's like, not that funny. I agree. No more moratorium on April Fool's jokes. Annie: Yeah, we gotta stop. Or it needs to be like fucking, like, you need to really like fool people. Nick: Yeah, and it's like there's nothing, it's like none of it. [00:24:00] I mean, I can think Annie: of some things, but it would just make people mad. Nick: Right. Annie: No brand is brave enough. Nick: No, because it would have to be like, it would sort of have to be like, anti cancel culture a little bit. Annie: It would have to be like, we put live bunnies. It's like, we do, we do test on animals now. Nick: Like the new, like, rare beauty, Annie: like, concealer and it has four shades and they're all, it's Nick: like one shade or something that, but like that's, that is, that's too, that's too edgy for the beauty industry. Annie: Yeah. No. When, the one thing the beauty industry is not as edgy, like the moment Kat Von D was like, I don't know about this vaccine. She was like, I Nick: mean, but you know who is edgy lol is Isamiah French and her penis lollipop Yeah, Annie: but kind of Nick: sick. Annie: Yes, but it's like not I'm Nick: joking. It's not it's there's nothing funny about that either Annie: No, Nick: you know who's funny Jeffrey [00:25:00] star. Yeah, but and that's why he exists outside of Yeah, exactly. He Self funded his own thing Annie: Beef jerky and pallets. Somehow it works in his world. And Nick: doesn't he have like a llama farm or something? Anyway, hold on. Yeah, Annie: that's how he makes the beef jerky. The yaks. Oh, Nick: okay. Well then it's not beef jerky. So also mark our word. Are you ready for this? Annie: Who's mark our word? Nick: Me and you. This is to the audience of listeners and from us. The next big thing in beauty is going to be Christian girl. Beauty. Annie: Oh, yes. Evangelical. Nick: Evangelical Christians are taking over my For You page, my Explore page. I've been sending you this girl, Sadie Robinson, who somehow I started getting served. And I like, she's like in these like mega churches, or it looks like she's literally playing [00:26:00] Madison Square Garden. And she is a Phi Beta Delt, or what, you know, like she looks just like a hot sorority girl. And I say that we all love in, like, a pink jumpsuit and she's like, Hey, y'all. So y'all I mean, you know how, when, like, you just like had an exam and it's like, oh, my God. And, like, I'm like, I keep on, like, fast forwarding to be, like, when does she get to, like. The point of what she's saying, but then the whole clip will just be, like, her telling a story, But it's all about Jesus. Annie: She was like talking about Noah's ark and she was like, we all know about Noah's ark. You know, you got two of each animal, you got Noah, everything's going to be okay. It's a, it's a happy story, but we're not asking ourselves why, why did he have to build the ark? Why did things get so bad? I'm going to read you from Ecclesiastes, where God said. Nick: But anyway, she, I'm gonna, you know what, I should represent her because we can get, we [00:27:00] can get brand deals, the house down. Annie: Ugh, I find her so grating. I can't believe like she's working on you. She's like the person that makes me. She doesn't really work on me. Nick: I mean, I think it's ridiculous, but like just the fact that she's like the face of like modern Christianity. Annie: There's a lot of, well, we were, cause we were, we were having a little, Brainstorm as we do on regular schedule about how to grow our audience on our podcast. Um, Nick: and we were like we need my theory Annie: No, I think we need a straight white man Look at all the top as a co Nick: host Annie: as a we need a third co host like preferably Nick: like a flat Annie: Or like a Dave, he needs to like own a pitbull, which is like my least favorite type of guy. No offense. I do think that if you're a man and you own a pitbull, you are compensating for something. Phone: We gotta start over. This is bad. And this verse is probably one of the most sad [00:28:00] verses to me in the whole entire Bible. It's Genesis 6, and it's the story of Noah and the Ark. Many of us know the story of Noah and the Ark, but most of us, when we think about Noah and the Ark, what do we think about? We think about the two animals, and Noah's family, and we think about the ark, and the rainbow, and it's a beautiful story. But you don't think about how it had to get literally so bad, Literally. Literally. So evil that God would say, I'm gonna destroy the whole earth. So we're gonna talk about that part for just a second. It was that bad. It was that evil. It was that horrible. There Nick: was that little riz. Why is Annie: God, why is God so spiteful? The wickedness of man was so great in the earth, and that every I love Ursula. I'm just like, what do you mean? I'm not gonna follow you. She's the worst. I would give my life for you. He was Phone: so on fire for God. Nick: I'm in. All I'll say is like, where do I sign? [00:29:00] What's the dollar amount that I need to Annie: You know who is not getting old? Who I feel like should be getting old by now? Who? Pookie and her husband. Nick: Oh, yeah. Good point. Can I say one other thing? I have a product of the week. Should we get to that? It's a really good product of the week. Annie: This is a very short episode, Nick. Nick: That's okay. Sometimes you gotta keep it tight and light. Light and tight. Okay. My product of the week is, for all of you Scientology heads, There is a substack newsletter that I started following during the Danery Masterson trial. I somehow like got turned on to it, but it's, you know, there are a bunch of these sort of Leah Remini, people that are in the Leah Remini crowd in like her circle who are all dedicating their entire lives to like debunking and uncovering, uh, All these nefarious doings and [00:30:00] actions of Scientology. Right. Right. So if you're like, yeah, and I've like, always been obsessed with cults and Scientology. And so I started getting the sub stack newsletter and it's like, it comes out every single day. And they get like all the leaks from like the big events and they get pictures and transcripts and like, it's, it's amazing. They're doing the work Annie: yeah, what's the content though? Like, it's about, well, I'm going to tell you. Well, Nick: so no, it's just covering Scientology, like, but like getting sort of like information they don't want you to have, like pictures from inside their like biggest gala of the year. And for the first time, Elizabeth Moss, pregnant, was sitting front row at a Scientology event and she was photographed. So that was like, so if you're into Scientology news, then I recommend Tony Ortega. [00:31:00] His substack is called the Underground Bunker. And they ha it's just juicy, not every single day, but like, again, I mean, when else are you going to be able to see pictures from the front row of the latest Scientology gala? And it's John Travolta next to Elizabeth Moss. Isn't that amazing? Annie: I mean, I just think like, what a brave soul. I just can't, that's so much Nick: trauma Annie: to invite into your life. I'm just, I mean, I get that he's doing it for a good reason. Nick: I think they really do think that they are like doing like debunking like a horrible terrorist organization and like, yes, there it sounds like there are allegedly some very dark corners of Scientology, but it's also like, if you want to do this. But I know that some people do it against their, are being forced to work and like, where is Shelly [00:32:00] Miscavige? I know. Also, you know who we haven't heard from in a long time, but who was there? Gianna and Bodhi Elfman. Remember Dharma and Greg? Annie: Oh, wow. Nick: Anyway, so my product of the week is this sub stack called the Underground Bunker. And if you just are interested and intrigued by Scientology gossip and information, this is for you. What do you have? Annie: Well, put me on the spot here. I, you know what I've been reaching for a lot lately? It's a blast from the past. From yuled offices above the container store on Broadway. Any guesses? Nick: No. Annie: I have been wearing, I guess I've been, I guess I've been in a summer mood. I have been wearing Estee Lauder Bronze Goddess. Music: What Nick: the heck? It has shimmer, right? Annie: No. It's just a [00:33:00] fragrance. Nick: Oh, oh, oh. What am I thinking of? What's the bron the Oh, no, that's the L'Oreal bronzing mist or whatever. Annie: Anyway, sorry, Nick: continue. Annie: Bronze Goddess is that fragrance that smells like sunscreen with a hint of coconut. I mean, just smells chemically, but in the best way. Okay. And it's addictive, it's warm, it makes you feel like you're in a, it makes you feel like it's like ointment in a hot car on the roadside of a Nick: The main accords are vanilla, coconut, amber, white floral, tropical. Annie: Hmm. Do you not remember smelling it in the office and everybody was obsessed? I wrote a whole article about it. Nick: No, but I mean, this sounds very much like me. Annie: I mean, I still have the same bottle [00:34:00] from, you know, over 10 years ago. A little goes a long way. Well, I've never finished a perfume in my life. Nick: You know what the only one I've finished up? Annie: What? Nick: Baccarat Rouge. Annie: Why is everybody so obsessed with this? I need to go smell it. I need, I need to, I'm gonna make my way up to Bergdorf. Nick: I mean, there's, it's a, it's a, it's a cult thing for a reason. It's just like really, it is like a, it's a take on the thing of Centaure 33, kind of. But it's different. Annie: So it's like musky and peppery or what? Nick: No, it's like sweet and creamy and Deep and warm and very unisex, expensive smelling, but I mean on the other end of the price spectrum because the great thing about Bronze Goddess Is you can buy the eau de parfum for 90 [00:35:00] bucks. Annie: Oh, wow Nick: For 1. 7 ounces. Annie: I like the packaging of mine, but i've seen like the updated versions and i'm having fun Nick: Yeah, or you can get two you can get 1. 7 ounces for 90 or 3. 4 for 110. That's a much better. That's a Annie: deal Let me tell you because this fragrance is Unless they've updated it since they've certainly updated the bottle and you know What happens when you over the years? I think it's hard to maintain the same Exact formula between batches. Well, we've talked Nick: about this because like it's literally crops Like sometimes that year it's crops like sometimes that year's lavender crop smells a little different Annie: Oh, right Like chanel owns their field where they get their Lavender Yeah, so they can better control. Nick: Yeah, but in general, like still it's natural things. [00:36:00] A lot of it, not all of it, some of it's like all synthetic, but, or some of it is synthetic, like some of the ingredients, but yeah, so it makes sense that they would sort of change and you have to like sub something out and put something else new. People always like are freaking out about reformulations, but sometimes you have to because you're dealing with like things that exist. And limited supply. Annie: Yeah. Nick: And with that. Annie: Say it again, brother. Nick: I have to go to a physical therapy appointment for Rafi. So we got to cut this one short. But Annie: we are Nick: produced by Jonathan Korman, a friend of a pod. We are edited by A. J. Mosley. And we are found most uncensored on Patreon at Patreon dot com slash Eyewitness Beauty. And we'll be back next week with a brand new episode. Music: Bye. Nick: Bye.