EWB 1.10 V1 Nick: [00:00:00] Hello, and welcome to Eyewitness Beauty, the podcast where we talk about the biggest stories in the beauty industry each week. I'm Nick Axelrod Welk. I'm joined as always by the lovely, charming Diamond Creek Bomb. Annie: Hi, cutie angels. Nick: Okay, we've had a little bit of technical difficulties to start out this Wednesday morning. but while you were Sorry, but while, a peek behind the curtain, so to speak, but while you were away, I had a confession that I, I guess was kind of beautiful that I just gave to what amounts to dead air, but also just between me and the readers, which is that I really like my Skims underwear. Annie: Oh, Nick: They get better, like, they get softer as you wash them. Annie: don't know if I like that.[00:01:00] Nick: I guess, like, the washing machine, like, detergent breaks down the plastic in the underwear, so that it really just feels, like, much softer than it did in the beginning. I just got one size too small. Annie: but you thought they were too slutty. Nick: a little restrictive, but I like them. No, but I, the thing that I was, that was more of a size, that was more on, that was on me. I'm like, as I record this, not that I'm not paying attention to you. Yes! They only have 2XL, Annie: Yeah, they sell out of the women's stuff really quickly too. Nick: heck? Annie: It's never in stock. I guess good problem to have. Nick: Are they just minting money? Annie: Yeah, she's the most powerful Christian is the most powerful woman in the world. My question is, and maybe this is for a different episode, like a special report for us to examine. But what [00:02:00] happened with Dolce and Gabbana? Like I was listening to first of all, we know that they've been canceled more than once for like racist imagery in their collections and like casting choices and. other like creative choices that felt Nick: Like blackfishing, you mean? Annie: not blackfishing but like literally having like blackface characters as like part of as a amulet on their jewelry or i remember there was something about like they did a collection inspired by no dolce and gabbana who are now synonymous with the kardashians kim did a collection with Nick: we switched from Kardashians to Dolce Gabbana. Yes, Dolce Gabbana have been cancelled. Annie: Yes, and then I was listening to past episodes of babe, which if you listen to this podcast, you'll know that that's been my journey recently. And Lara mentioned that she named Stefano [00:03:00] Gabbana the Babe of the Week, which is to say that he had been like acting out on social media and he had been like, from his personal account, he had been leaving like really bitchy comments under people's photos. Like, there was a photo of Selena Gomez and he just wrote hate her. there was a photo of the Kardashians and he wrote. cheapest family on the earth or something, you know, derogatory like that. And now they're like, their businesses are so closely linked. Like they, they like suck Christian to no end. They dress, they did Courtney's wedding. They did a whole collection with Kim. Chris's whole house is Dolce and Gabbana for like, smeg appliances or whatever. So what, and then, and then I see that they're still dressing like huge celebrities for big events. Like there was no, what happened there? Did we just let time pass? And we just forgave them because they're [00:04:00] Italian? Weaponized. Nick: I think, I mean, I think that the people that cancelled them never uncancelled them. But, like, the Kardashians never cancelled them. I think it was more, like, people who were woke I think they were going to show a collection in China and there was, like, some crazy imagery with, like, noodles or chopsticks or something. Like, there was something that either Stefano Gabbana, who seems to be the loose cannon of the two, I don't know. You don't really hear about Domenico Dolce going off on social media, but I think Stefano, I don't know, did something bad and they canceled the China show and I think those people have not forgiven nor forgotten. I think the Kardashians have a very short attention span, but you know what I was talking about? Speaking of the Kardashians what I was talking about. With my husband, and I don't know if I've mentioned it with to you, I think the true clever quality of the card at the true cleverness is [00:05:00] cleverness, a word of the Kardashians and the devil. Slash genius. That is Kris Jenner. Is there Christianity? Nothing against Christianity, but it's this idea that like, they balance this like incredibly unsavory. You know, like side to them where it's like the higher, the slit, the lower, the V, the more exposed, the better, the more crass they can be, the better the people that they date, like the whole thing is like vulgar. To some extent or can be with this idea of like loving Jesus and having like a pastor, you know, as they're like pastor Brad or whoever it is like, and that they somehow have like been able to trick America into believing that they're both the sexiest people alive and sort of, the most you know, Liberal [00:06:00] in some ways, like liberal in terms of their sexuality, liberal politically, seemingly, you know, Kim's doing all this prison reform stuff with also being somewhat evangelical in their religious, like then, but talking about God and religion, which I just think is such a genius move because it's like the, it just, it endears them to both the liberal media elite on the coasts as well as like, You know, the conservatives who would hate them had, were they not talking about Jesus? And that's just kind of genius. They've like, they've weaponized Christianity. They've weaponized Christianity. Annie: They definitely commoditized Nick: Agree or Annie: But what I disagree, I would say they've commoditized it or they've used it to their advantage to be more relatable. And as you say, maybe that's the sugar that makes the medicine go down for some people [00:07:00] with them that makes them acceptable because they're, they have this side of them that is palatable. But Kanye is a, Nick: or Kanye, as my friend calls him, huge Christian, obsessed. Huge Christian. Annie: Like, simps for God, like, daily. Obsessed. Nick: I know. And I just find that whole, like the dance that they're, yeah, the dance that they're playing feels too perfect. Like just when, you know, like the conservatives want to say they're gross or they're this or they're that. Sex before marriage, like all the stuff that they do, you know, then they're like, what, but we have pastor Brad at dinner every single Sunday and we love Jesus and we wear crosses, hence Dolce and Gabbana famous, famously very into Catholicism, Catholic imagery. Annie: A tale as old as time. Who of us hasn't used Christianity to, like, make ourselves look [00:08:00] better? Nick: The Catholic Church, to be honest. I've wanted to, and it pains my mother when I've, like, attempted to at various points in my life. I've, like, really wanted to wear, like, a cross earring, or, you know, and she's just like, That's not for you. Annie: Mm, mm hmm. Nick: But I've wanted it. I don't know. I know. It's hard. So now I'm just a pagan. No offense, I mean, no, is that, is pagan a bad word? I don't think so. Annie: No, it's definitely not a bad word, but you're Nick: But I don't even know if I'm a pagan. Annie: Jewish, babe. You're Jewish. Nick: Culturally Jewish and religiously Annie: like I'm not allowed to use the three letter word. I feel like I was when I was dating a Jewish man. Nick: Sex. God. Jew. Jew. Oh, Annie: off a little abrupt. It's like a little aggressive for me to use that word right now.[00:09:00] Nick: Oh, I mean, maybe in this political climate, which reminds me of a very funny shouts and murmurs from the New York Times right around the time when The Passion of the Christ came out. Mel Gibson's tour de force about the life or the death of Jesus Christ. Steve Martin wrote a an essay for the New Yorker and the title of the essay was something like studios notes on the passion of the Christ script. And it was like, written as if Steve Martin was like, one of the studio executives giving notes on the script and one of the, one of the notes was, I think there should be a s I think you mean to have a space between the word Jew and boy. If not, call me. Wait, what is Jewboy? Was that in the film? not a nice term. It's not a term of endearment. No, but I think it was just, you know, because he's famously anti [00:10:00] semitic. I can say it. Annie: No, bleep it out for me. don't want, I don't want this ever like, caught up and Nick: bleep, Mel Gibson? Oh. Annie: Jewboy. Nick: Oh, we like cut up to be like you, just like a mega mix of Jew boy. Annie: They were like, it's a little plotty. That's my favorite note that I've ever gotten back on a screenplay. It's a little plotty. I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? Plotty! Nick: Oh, that is a tough one. How do you answer Annie: Sorry, you asked me to put together a plot outline for you, and you're telling me it's a little plotty. I love it. I love it. I love, I love learning new industry terms. Can we talk about me for a second? Nick: Yes. Annie: Thanks for giving your consent. I did an at home chemical appeal given to me by one Casey Axelrod. Remember, I was like, trying to get into my Uber, and he was like, literally, [00:11:00] he like, ran to his bag and like, threw it across the room, to me, on, yeah, he was like, take this, just take it, it was like, I was like a soldier leaving for war, and it was like, the last, like, little, remember me by this and then I had to check a bag, because it was over my liquid limit, but worth it, because, Nick: But you did it. That is dedication. to check a bag because of one beauty product. I mean, we've all done it. Because we're like, Annie: mean, he said they were like, so expensive, so expensive. Nick: yeah, it's a very fancy peel he gave you. Annie: It was, it's called the VI, which I'm sure is a Roman numeral. That's four, right? Nick: Probably six. Six or four continue Annie: And it's also for post inflammatory hyperpigmentation, which I really needed after my cystic acne, my cystic hormonal acne, which I have now cured myself of. Via spearmint tea[00:12:00] I'm going to switch to spearmint capsules now because the tea doesn't do anything for me in terms of experiential value to my life. So, I forget the whole point I was trying to make, but I did it. I posted about it last night, and on my stories, and it's like going nuts. Eight, like, eight thousand people have watched it. That's not normal. Nick: Well, famously your your biggest into the gloss article was about a DIY. I was gonna call it a banana peel. A bikini wax Annie: Brazilian bikini wax, yes. Nick: right? So it makes sense that people are following you for like a good DIY. So a DIY medical grade peel is going to catch some eyeballs. Annie: It's super easy. I don't know why people are going into a clinic for this. I don't know why it's prescription only. I mean, I guess if you're going to be a dum dum and go out in the sun or do it over damaged Nick: Well, because you just did it. Isn't it like, isn't your [00:13:00] face going to fall Annie: No, I did it Friday night. That's the magic of social media. I have to keep him guessing. I never I never reveal Nick: and you haven't had, and you, and there's been no issues? Annie: No, no issues. I did peel off. I did manually peel like a big flake off right in my Marionette line just because I couldn't fucking help myself You're not supposed to you're not supposed to do that It's not like baby foot where you can go in and just like peel peel peel with your fingers Like you really are supposed to leave it alone But everything else I've done by the books like I haven't really left my apartment I haven't gone out in the sun. I've been using the sunscreen, even though I'm inside. But it does leave in the morning. My sheets look like I like had a little cookie in bed. Cause there's like little skin crumbs. It's disgusting. I know, Nick: my God. Annie: Anyway, so that's that. I'll keep everyone [00:14:00] updated, but I think my skin's looking pretty good. Apparently you're supposed to do more than one though. I don't know how people like have the time to take off a week, three months in a row to do a peel like this. That's crazy. At that point I would just be like, give me the laser, Nick: I, I've gotten Morpheus Annie: Yeah. Nick: and it's the same thing. You're like skin looks crazy for a week, but you have to, I mean, at the very most you could get maybe 24 hours. If you did it like on a Saturday, you know, or I guess 48, if you did it on like an early Saturday morning and had to go back to work on a Monday, but yeah, you're still going to look a little effed up. does your skin look better? Annie: Hard to say at this point. Yeah, I think it does. I think it's helping some stuff heal that wasn't healing It's glowing. I Oh, my product of the week is related to this, but we can wait till the end of the episode Why don't we talk about the emmys? Why don't we do something fun today?[00:15:00] Nick: Emmys hit me with your initial. Hit me with your thoughts. Annie: I have my best and worst list best hunter schaefer and prada That looked great. No idea what she's in Right now, but she was there and she was Nick: She can do no Annie: dress julia gardner and gucci Nick: Hunger Games. Annie: fantasia burrino No idea what she's in. Nick: Love her. Annie: Do you? Hold on. Let me see what she was wearing. I have her on Nick: color purple. Annie: Oh, they're promoting it right now. Let's check the tag. This is the Instagram I use for all of this. Check the tag. Fantasia was wearing, oh, you know what she was wearing? This is why I thought of it. Dolce and Gabbana. Nick: Hm. Annie: And she looked good. I like her. It's, I think it's hard to, it's hard to wear like a Neapolitan style dress. And by that, I mean, [00:16:00] it's blocked where the top is like one distinct section and then the hips are one distinct section. And then the skirt is one distinct, like you have to be, you have to have body for that. And I feel like. Then a lot of people can't pull that off, especially having the, like, sparkles along, like, the widest part of their hips, but she looked great. and then this might be a controversial one, but I am gonna put a stake in the ground on this. Jennifer Lawrence in her after party look, which was vintage Bill Blass, I believe that was her coat. And then a gold Proenza velvet party dress, but the coat was trimmed in red fox, and it looked so good. and fur is having a moment. I think fur is back, baby. And as long as we're not torturing and killing animals that are alive today. Nick: directly from Annie. Annie: a vintage coat. Nick: Vintage fur. Exactly, vintage fur. Annie: Vintage fur. [00:17:00] We have a Zac Efron watch. He looked good. Did you see him at the Governor's Awards? Nick: He did look better. Yep. Annie: By the way, what are the Governor's Awards? It like, happened the night after the Emmys, and I thought that was kind of rude to make everyone go to a party the next night. He was there and he looked good. I think his like, Nick: Are they for Gavin Newsom? I don't Annie: steroid use is like, the steroids are making their way out of his system and he's like, de puffed overall. Nick: Alleged. Mm Annie: he was definitely, like, Nick: hmm. Annie: If I get a cease and desist from him, he can't because it's obvious he was on steroids, which I applaud because that shows dedication to his role of playing a, like a wrestling guy. What do you call them? Wrestlers. What? It's hard on your body. I'm and Nick: No, I agree.[00:18:00] Annie: yeah, so Florence Pugh finally looked good in Rodarte, but I think that was at the governor's ball. Not at the Emmys. Glenn Close and Dior at the governor's awards. J. Smith Cameron at the Emmys looked amazing in blue. Ali Wong, Dior haute couture, but the glasses are what I thought really like sent it. Brie Larson in Prada. I love her weird shoes and everything. Is that purple like? And then Margot and Armani, she looked amazing. I love the pink. She keeps us on the edge of our seats waiting for what Barbie look she'll do next. I love the whole Nick: I mean, so it's funny. I feel like she there's been some controversy. It's like some people saying, Margo, it's time to just give the Barbie thing a rest, but What I understand is like the, I mean, she has to do it through the Oscars, right? Like you can't stop. She's Annie: That is, that is the stopping point. It's so weird that people would think that it's not. That's like the clear, yeah, we were, we're [00:19:00] all along for this ride. Like, if you're against, if you're against it, then like, be quiet. But like, we know that that's what's happening. Nick: So my, best, and I didn't, I don't think, I mean, I thought Timothee Chalamet looked incredible. I thought the guy from May, December, Charles Melton in Armani. Like there's some things that are not meant for me. I think double breasted suit being one of them, but I thought. And I always am like looking at these like tall movie stars wearing dumb double-breasted suits. And I'm like, yeah, I can do that. I should get a double-breasted suit. Number one, I don't wear suits number two, I'm not six two. buT Charles Melton looked phenomenal and I was looking as everyone was at all the like B-roll of Timothy and Kylie and I was like, I, I'm, if Kylie's entering a like no makeup, makeup era. Because she's sort of being taken seriously as the girlfriend of a movie star. I'm kind of here for it. I thought [00:20:00] she looked beautiful without makeup on. I don't know what it looks like up close. But I thought from afar, stunning. Annie: Wait, this is news to me. What do you mean she wasn't wearing makeup? She was definitely wearing makeup. Nick: It just looked, yeah, but it was just like less. Annie: I don't know. I don't know if I'm on board with this take. Nick: You don't think so? Annie: I don't know if we're going to see that as her thing going forward. I mean, she has a lot of eyeshadow palettes to sell, so. But she did just come out with a pencil lip liner, so I think that that's why the look was more about the lip. Okay, worst, Olivia Munn in Matoveski, is that how you say it? It was like wrinkled sheets, it was very weird. This was the governor's ball. Billie Eilish, let's just And then Selena, not a great look for her. Not a great look [00:21:00] for her Doing very aggressive gossiping either. Nick: She claims she wasn't. Annie: I know, but these people are so media trained her Taylor everyone else in that room are so Especially her. She's just a puppeteer with her audience. So to feign like I don't know naivete or innocence when you're Making like very aggressive facial expressions and whispering into like literally the most famous woman in the world's ear at an award show I don't know. She just she selena's just all about the drama and it bothers me that Nick: and act like you're surprised or something. Annie: yeah, and then and then her whole personal brand and her whole rare beauty thing is like no i'm about kindness and mental health and not bullying people and It's just, why are we still on this ride [00:22:00] with her? It's so Nick: It's like, you can't have it both ways. Annie: No, she's a mean girl, and like, I don't like it. I don't like it. Grow up. Nick: my favorite thing is when she's like, I'm taking a social media break. Like Annie: it again. Nick: This has gotten too toxic. And then like the next week she's, she Annie: She literally just did it again. Yeah. Nick: I know. I think she's, I think when you grow. uP in the spotlight, you just have no chance of being a normal person. Annie: Also, if you're making mental health your Nick: Platform. Annie: your theme, your personality, you're not mentally healthy. Sorry. It's been, it's been something I've seen too many times where, where women especially have made their whole personal brands about being being in therapy, Nick: girl? Annie: being a girl's girl, being mentally well, Nick: that you're a girl's [00:23:00] girl, guess what? You're not. Annie: but then doing really insane stuff behind the scenes. Like I've had personal experience with it where it just like really to borrow a babe term darks me out and people follow them thinking that they're. You know experts on the subject and it's just so toxic and weird like I don't know go to a doctor Talk to your therapist, but I don't know social media influencers that are doing the mental health thing or like very bizarre. Nick: Should we get into beauty? Annie: Okay, fine Nick: Okay, my top story for the week is one that, was in Bloomberg Business Week, and this is beauty adjacent, I guess. And the headline, bottled water contains way more plastic particles than previously thought. And this is according to new research [00:24:00] published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. apparently, a typical bottle of water contains 240, 000 plastic fragments on average. And that's a hundred times more than had been previously estimated. 240, Annie: Wow, I thought it only contained 50 Nick: 000 plastic fragments in a bottle of water. That's how it's getting into our placentas. Annie: And what is it doing in there? Like, what does it do? How does it harm us? Like, what happens when we just become fully plastic? Nick: That's a great question. I don't know. Annie: Like, it seems like a lot of gossip, a lot of, like Nick: A lot of Annie: But, like, to what end? Why? What are we So, so what? I'm, so what? I'm 10 percent plastic. So what? Nick: This is according to The Guardian last year. Actually two years ago. [00:25:00] A recent study found that microplastics can latch onto the outer membrane of red blood cells and may Limit their ability to transport oxygen. They also may act as endocrine disruptors. Annie: They say that about everything. Nick: maize and mites I know I know I agree. Annie: I don't know. I'm like, bring on the plastic. Nick: Okay, you heard it here first. Okay, what else you have This is in women's wear daily a little silent killer silent but deadly brand that we I think we talked about a little bit but not as Much as we talked about many brands West minute. Elly a Started by Gucci Westman famously the celebrity makeup artist, who was also She was the makeup artist for what brand forever? Like, she was sort of the Pat McGrath was to cover girl, as Gucci Westman was to[00:26:00] Annie: I'm stumped. Nick: Oh, she was Lancome Oh, Revlon! Lancome and Revlon. And, uh, anyway, she's had a Westman Atelier. It's a very high priced makeup brand. She's in Sephora. And I just thought this was interesting. Westman Atelier is projected to hit a hundred million dollars in retail sales in 2023. And Sephora is expanding the brand into 252 doors in February. And they're launching minis there. They're going big. My money is on Westman Atelier getting acquired. By a luxury conglomerate in the next 24 months, Annie: I would love that for Nick: people love the products. It's catering to a very specific clientele. The like older the older luxury shopper and, you know, even though there's been so much news recently about 10 year olds in Sephora. I feel like the never underestimate the power of the one who actually, you know, has the credit Annie: power of [00:27:00] the purse, baby. My I saw this article. I saw that they are really investing in more minis, which is interesting because my knee jerk reaction is, I don't like that. It's just as much packaging waste for like less product. And I just, especially with the idea of like travel minis, I'm like just, Put it, reuse little travel bottles, just put your favorite products in little travel bottles, wash them. Yes, you have to wash them. It's an extra step, but like stop buying like single use, you know, travel minis. Then I was thinking, well. Milk makeup famously had a big old bronzing stick. They had a bunch of products that came in stick form and then they did many sizes of them and now they only sell the mini sizes. So that's like the new normal size. And I'm like, okay, if people are not, aren't working their way through the product [00:28:00] in a lifetime to where it's, it's like, it's just too big, it's too much product. Then I like the idea of minis, but the, I use her biscuit stick. Thing that they're shrinking into mini size and I have the mini size and I don't know. I don't feel like it's Small enough to warrant a mini but maybe definitely she uses a lot of packaging. It's very heavy. It's very luxe feeling I'm sure it's very expensive Not a fan of her single yeah, I Nick: you tried any of the Annie: stick contour stick I use it as a bronzer I use, it's very creamy. I've tried the eye shadow, the single eye shadow, which I love a single shadow, but colors were boring. The formula wasn't my favorite. It was all [00:29:00] dry and chalky looking on me personally. And then what else have I tried? I have her little lip palette that comes in the You know, pebble, the metal pebble that has the different shades of red all together in a single hot pour. And I've never used it. I just like looking at it, you know, Nick: Yeah. Annie: but that's my problem because I'm, I'm the person that always buys lip products and I never put them on because I think I look like a whoah when I wear lip stuff. Nick: That's Annie: And that's a personal problem. Nick: what else you got? What? Annie: on the other end of the spectrum, something's going on with the budget brands. So we're specifically talking about ELF and Colourpop. They're just like having too much [00:30:00] fun. You know what I mean? Nick: What do you mean? Annie: Like, I think, like, you can tell they're at a phase, because I remember this when we were at Glossier, they're at a phase where they're printing money, much like the Kardashians, and their, marketing team is just, like, doing anything. Like, any idea. They're like, let's do it. Let's do it. What's the brand that does the, it's not e. l. f. Who does the, there's a product now called duck plump. Yeah. It's by, it's by Nick's Nick's. Somebody corrected me the other day. It's Nick's not NYX and it's like a pumping lip gloss called duck plump. Like they're just. Yeah, like duck lips, like, you know what I mean? Like, they're, they're just like embracing the idea that it's like the duck lip look is just what they're, that's the positioning. And they're doing a Superbowl commercial with it. And they literally have rubber ducks as the little mascot for this project. [00:31:00] Like a side profile of a rubber duck with like, a big ol lip. Nick: That is crazy. Annie: Too much fun. And they're doing a Superbowl commercial, I saw. And then, we have Elf over here. I'm trying, I'm just trying to watch like, Million dollar decorators or whatever, Nick: Me too! Annie: have in the Nick: Oh my god, we're Annie: and I'm getting hit with commercials, or I don't know if it's that 1 in particular, whatever 1 is making me watch commercials. There's a whole campaign for elf cosmetics where they did, like, a scripted, like, procedural drama about. A mystery of who stole the makeup and so they've been having these little, like, commercial clips of, like, an interrogation room with, like, a. Like a hot, like, you know, Jacob Elordi style, like, gay boy being like, I didn't steal the makeup and then there's like photos of him, like, in full, like, glam taking [00:32:00] selfies and he's like, and he like, points the finger at someone else and then the whole mystery of the campaign is like, who stole the makeup? Nick: Oh god, they have too much Annie: It's too much money. It's too much money. I'm like I I would actually rather see them use this on like influencer It's just like it's getting too weird And then you have twilight over here who's missing a major opportunity or sorry color pop they're doing a collaboration with twilight First of all, kvd vegan beauty Nick: the, the series, Annie: the series from 10 years ago It's finally getting a makeup line with color pop and There is a new lip gloss formula that I've seen, and it is like an, I think it's like an oil and gloss emulsion, but it's not fully mixed. So, when you see it through a clear tube, it looks like droplets [00:33:00] of blood or, you know, pigment suspended in water. The fact that ColourPop didn't use a formula like this for their lip oils for this collaboration, I think is just like a huge what the fuck. Like fire your head of product development, like get her out of here. She needs to or give her more resources so she can be going to the different like trade shows and seeing these new formula innovations because this is just such a miss. They just did a normal lip oil that doesn't look like blood when there's a blood lip oil formula that they could have used off the shelf. Anyway, so there's that. But they do look like they have like a highlighting serum that looks similar to like the Izumiya one that makes your skin look like the vampire skin from the movie, which I like. And then, I don't know. There's nothing else for me. I have like a major flop that I, upon reflection, is like an even bigger flop than I first thought. Let's just do products of the week.[00:34:00] My product of the week is Biafine and it is the Classic French pharmacy staple that comes in the big white tube with the dark green lettering that says Biafine up the side and really fat letters and Nick: famously recommended by Carlene Cerf de Dunzeel, I think that's how you pronounce her last name, the stylist on Into the Gloss for like, After Sun, right? Annie: yeah, and it was, if you want to hear something even chicer than that. About Biafine, it was invented in 1971 by a French chemist. He created it to help heal a burn for his daughter in law, a model for fashion house Yves Saint Laurent, after she burned herself while ironing an outfit for a fashion show. Nick: Huh. Annie: Sheet, right? Nick: French. Annie: Yeah. So, [00:35:00] it's supposed to be used on, like, irritated skin from burns from like sunburns, ironing board burns. Et cetera, et cetera. Irritated skin, not broken skin, but I think just like burned skin. But people have been apparently using it too much. I saw like, there's a whole thing on Tik TOK where people are like trying to be truthers about biophine and telling people not to use it as much as they do. And I think it's because it has this ingredient in it called, um, Nick: Why? What's their argument? Annie: has this ingredient that's I think the skin soother called tro trolamine, and I think it can actually cause skin sensitivity if you use it. It's just like any good thing. If you use it too much, it's, and it's probably not good to be used in like huge amounts, like it does, your skin does absorb these things. Anyway, but I love it. I wish I could use it every day as a face moisturizer, because the other, the other ingredients are really nice. It's like paraffin and stearic acid and I think avocado oil, which [00:36:00] normally I'm like, try to avoid oils, but whatever, whatever ratio they did in this formula is really nice. Really nice. And I will say my skin does feel like numb when I put it on, because I've been using it after the peel, which you're not supposed to do. You're supposed to use the moisturizer that they Nick: So it's like, it's immediately relieving. Annie: Yeah, it kind of makes your skin go numb. Just a little bit. It feels great. What about you? Nick: I have been using a couple, a bunch, as I've kind of mentioned, a bunch of, did I mention this on the bonus episode? Maybe that I'm just like, I use whatever at this point. I'm sort of like, over skincare in a way. But I've, you know where I've come crawling back to? Annie: What? Nick: Drunk Elephant Proteiny Protein Daily Moisturizer. It is so good for winter. It doesn't have a fragrance. It is thick, but it [00:37:00] doesn't leave a greasy residue. It is like 70. You can get it Instacarted to you. it's a no brainer winter moisturizer. Proteiny, drunk elephant. Trust me. Annie: And why is protein good for your skin? Nick: I'll tell you why. It's, well, it's peptides. Okay. It's a peptide packed moisturizer that helps with firmness. And also it has growth factors which help in the immediate improvement of skin's tone, texture and firmness. And, and they're saying it's kind of a lightweight gel cream texture, but I would say it's a little bit heavier than a gel cream, but it's literally the perfect winter dry dry skin moisturizer. It's incredible, and I'm sorry I ever left Annie: Oh, wow. Nick: I'm sorry I ever left Annie: Okay. Nick: Yeah. Annie: Great. Nick: And [00:38:00] it's, gosh, it's, you know, it's 50 ml for frickin 68. Annie: 70 is Not cheap for moisturizer. Nick: It's not, I mean, but I guess if you were going to get, you could probably get skin RX for that price, right. Or, uh, that really good one from first aid beauty. But I like this for winter and I tried it when it first came out, maybe like eight years ago and I liked it. And then I kind of, I cheated on it and now I'm back. Annie: Okay. I love that. Thank you, Nick: I got. Hopefully we'll figure out our technical difficulties that we had to power through in order to bring this episode to you. But. We weren't not going to do that. We also appreciate that so many people are signing up for our Patreon. It means a lot to us. We are every single week posting the video, whether we like how we look or we don't on our Patreon only [00:39:00] for our Patreon subscribers the video of our podcast. And then once a month, we're doing a bonus episode. last week we did a Q and a, we answered questions. And we'll continue to do fun things on there. Uh, and we've been getting some funny messages that we're responding to personally, which we really appreciate. So patreon. com slash eyewitness beauty at eyewitness beauty on Instagram. You can find us. If you need us, Annie: Oh, I have something to add. I have something to add. We've received some very touching, beautiful reviews on Apple. So I just want to say thank you. I guess I assume it goes without saying, but I should never do that. I should try to show more gratitude. So that's on my 2024. Goals list, but the reviews that we received, the we get such kind emails that we've like literally changed people's lives.[00:40:00] Nick: who said that I didn't get that. Annie: Somebody wrote to us. I think I was like on a plane, so I couldn't respond, but somebody wrote to us that like our ketamine episode really helped them. They're really going through something and learning about how to mean and trying. It really helped them get through it. So I just anyway, I just want to say that we do read those things, even though we don't always respond and us not responding isn't a form of communication. It's just, you know, us, Nick: It's Million Dollar Decorators isn't gonna watch itself on Annie: Right. So Nick: We love you. AJ Mosley is our editor and Jonathan Korman is our producer. We couldn't do it without them literally because we don't know even what program to edit a podcast in. Until next week, we will see you on the internet. Annie: bye.[00:41:00]