Hello, and welcome to I Witness Beauty, the podcast where we talk about the biggest stories in the beauty industry each week. I am Nick Axelrod, also Nick Axelrod Welk, joined by Annie Axelrod Welk, also known as Annie Krygbaum, also known as Diamond Creek Bomb. Oh, did you adopt me? Mm -hmm. Welcome, I just didn't want you to feel left out. Remind me, are you Abba? I'm Abba. Okay, okay. And dad. And case he's dead. Yeah, I just didn't want to be dad and daddy because I just felt that when she was like 11 or 12, she would stop wanting to call one of us daddy. I don't know. Maybe not. You know what we all forgot about? Do you remember when Louis C .K. wrote and directed a movie called Be My Daddy or something, and it was with Chloe Grace Moritz as his daughter? Or there's some weird sexual story that he directed a full movie. It was in black and white, very artistic. And then the accusations against him came out and they buried the movie. Weird. Maybe it was just called Daddy, the movie. Weird because I feel like his allegations don't have anything to do with a daddy dynamic. They don't, but I just think it was the idea that he made this sexualized movie about Chloe Grace Moritz. I mean, I haven't heard of that, so. Doesn't Chloe Grace Moritz also just sounds like a Jewish prayer, doesn't it? Like, another thing I'm not familiar enough to say, fine. Fine. Can you tell me something interesting that happened this week? Let me think. Oh, I have a reader participation opportunity. My skin has been so bad and I need help. And you know what it is? It's the changing of the seasons. It could be the fact that I've just been partying for the past like eight weeks. True. - I don't know. - And using like very consistent products. - Quailudes are not good for your skin. - What aren't? - Quailudes. - Quailudes, I haven't seen a quailude in years. - I know. - My ex had a quailude that he was just holding on to for like historical purposes. (laughing) - Like for like to donate to a museum. - Seriously, it was like this, it was anyway. - In like a glass box, anyway. - No. - You know what? If we have nothing to talk about, let's not waste our breath and, oh, we do. - We do, we do. - I was gonna say, let's go to the beauty news. - Oh, well, I wanted to tell the readers to give me free healthcare and tell me what's going on with my face. So here's what I've tried. Well, here's my problem. I'm getting really underground, like deep acne all along my chin. So obviously that means something, like my neck and jawline. So if you, you can even Google like face map acne and it'll be like, that's hormonal. So I was like, okay, you know that much. And then I was like, Googling how to treat hormonal acne, like female 34. And anyway, Ashwagandha came up and I'm like, okay, great, that's easy. So I started to get ashwagandha. - The answer is always Ashwagandha, honestly. - I know. And so I was like, okay, marriage isn't all bacon. I'm gonna get some Ashwagandha pills. So I've been taking those. - Amanda Chantel Bacon, not Mary Chantel Bacon. - Oh, sorry, Mary Lou from Selling Sunset is just like top of mind right now, but we'll get to that. Yeah, her. And so I'm going through my Chantel Bacon era and taking Ashwagandha and steaming every day and doing a cold shower, which seemed to be helping. Everything was clearing up. And then I had one night this week 'cause I'm limiting myself to one night of martinis and oysters a week. and and Then I like didn't wash my face until I don't know 4 a .m. And then everything just went to shit So I mean I see the cause and effect logically speaking, but if somebody has a silver bullet and would like to share So you don't you're avoiding You're not acknowledging the cause and effect. You want like a different answer. Yeah. Yeah, I would like like a Quick fix and something that and I've even because because basically I've tried I've been doing all the hard things So I'm like, why can't I just have one night? Why like what is there one thing that I can do to like prevent that besides washing my face and not like You know going out and being like super fun and carefree. Yeah, young Enjoying three Speaking of young do you know that I turn 40 next week? No Yeah, the self -sacrifice is happening right now that you haven't been mentioning that and planning a 40th birthday bash And instead you've been working on your pot posto Yeah, well, here's the thing. I mean number one. Can I quote you on that and tell my husband number two? my birthday is November 25th, which is like a few days after Thanksgiving and Historically, no one has ever been around to celebrate my birthday So on my 21st birthday, I was with my parents because it was like the day after Thanksgiving It's either like the day of the day after, you know, like it's it's just like sucks So I'm not doing anything I love the sad birthday visibility that you're bringing to this podcast right now because I think with social media we are pressured to have fun birthdays every year. - I guess what, I don't like it. And I think that people can probably pick up on that and that's why they don't want to come to my party. I don't like it. - I think it's the one, 'cause I-- - I feel like the people who love birthday parties always have the most fun birthday parties. - No, that's not true. Well, I don't know if it's the birthday party itself that I love, but I love the attention. And I feel, because the rest of the year, I feel like I'm not allowed to ask for attention, but on my birthday, I'm like, this is the one day where I can-- - You can make yourself small because of like America? - Mm -hmm, yeah, 'cause I've been gaslit into thinking that I'm unworthy of love and affection. - That's not true though, you're totally worthy. Speaking of love and affection. - I know, on October 11th every year. Why were we talking about, oh, I was saying, Nick, I really appreciate, because I think, you know, and then when you don't have a fun birthday, then it's like really, makes birthdays really depressing. - I know, I know. So I had that basically. Like I had a depressing one last year because our surrogate went into like emergency labor and we had to cancel my dinner. So I'm just like, you know what, never mind, nothing. - I mean, that's a good excuse though. - Here's what I wanna talk about. - Go for it. - Okay, but I have a really important thing I wanna talk about. - Okay. - Miss George Santos. - Oh, yes. Yes. - Oh, God. - I know, I didn't know we had a beauty girly among us, but he's shopping at Sephora. - He's shopping at Sephora. I wonder. - He's going on, he's spending money at Sephora. He's definitely VIP Rouge, he is getting Botox and he's even like buying a few OnlyFans accounts. - I did that, I work. - And I honestly, Yasser Lester, friend of the pod, Instagram something really funny today, which Yasser Lester, friend of the pod, posted something funny on Instagram. He like was retweeting an ethic tweet that said, "Ethics Report, George Santos used campaign funds to pay for OnlyFans Botox Sephora." And Yasser wrote, "So George Santos rules?" Yeah. So one of us, one of us, one of us. He's one of us. All I wanted to say is that he's one of us. He's like, he's getting his check and he's going to Sephora. Who among us? He or she without blame cast the first stone. That's what I have to say. Who among us hasn't done that? Maybe more politicians need to be stopping in Sephora every once in a while. Yeah, like be with the people. Anyway, that was my biggest beauty story of the week. Pick up some product. Oh, true. Like get Mitch McConnell some contouring. I know he's even, he's a senator, but you know what I mean. Get a starter retinal. Like, I don't know. Get a, get a light mask. Oh, you know what I'm getting? Speaking of, speaking of things I have, I find like socially distasteful is asking for free stuff. You know, I'm really bad at like calling in free product. But I did call in a new Dr. Dennis Gross light mask. That said. And, and their body one. No, I'm getting, because I've had. How big is it? It's your whole body? It's, well, you can't use it. You can use it on lots of different areas of your body, your back, your chest, your neck. I'm going to do it on my butt, the back of my legs. Like I'm going to, everywhere is getting the red light treatment. But it's only about, I don't know, it's maybe like a foot and a half wide and then like eight inches tall and it like moves. It's bendable. Anyway, full report coming, but I can't wait. I've had my last one for since I wore it since into the gloss days. It's not crazy. You know that the red light mask also might help your acne you're talking about. I know, yeah, yeah. And I've been doing it. It helps with inflammation. Somebody give me something new to do because... Oh, you want like a new, you, it's all, okay. And I've been doing this consistently for at least six days. And why has, you know what though? Honestly, like that, what you just said is what makes me nervous as a product formulator and a brand founder, people don't have the patience to like, like they want something that, that promises long -term results, but they want to see results in under six days. Do you know what I mean? I don't think that. I think that that's because... You just said it. No, no, no, no. Hear me out. I think that products are marketed as like instant fixes. Like if, if brands would just be up front and be like, here's the study showing that like after X number of weeks, these were the results. And it was truly like a good study with a big sample size photos, all of that. Then I think people could use the product consistently because then it gives them like a goalpost, you know, but I think when you don't have that information and everything is like marketed as like a quick before and after and with like the fine kind at the bottom that like, I don't know. And it's like one person and she probably doesn't even have the same like skin issues that you do really. Anyway, so there's some free marketing advice. Actually, it's not free. I love it. But it's so expensive to do that. I don't know. But oh, have you, did you try the Mary Allen products? Yeah, I don't love them. Really? They're my favorite. favorite. Yeah, I don't, I think they're like cool, but they don't really do anything. Oh, you're lying. I mean, different opinions, different opinions. Yeah, that's my, that's my opinion. You're allowed to have that. You're allowed to keep, you're allowed to hold your wrong opinion. But George Santos, I love that you brought up George Santos because that is, it's, he's calm and cold. He, he's calm. He's like, he's also, I was gonna say, oh, I thought you were calm and ground. I think we can all agree that George Santos is good. I, I'm, you said that when the allegations come out, or maybe there are, the allegations are out. I also love who, Ted Cruz, is it him? No, it's not Ted Cruz. Who's the Polit, Rick, something that wears the lifts in his boots? Oh, Rick Santorum with his like eye heels. It is so wild that he thinks that politicians are insane. Politicians are so corrupt. We won't get into it. Yeah. No, no, no, no. But like, let that just sort of, let that sink in. Let that sink in. Let that sink in. Let's, okay. You heard it here first. Yeah, you heard it here first. Okay. Ready? What do you want to start with? Oh, I have a corrections corner from last week. What? Okay. So I saw Priscilla. I saw Priscilla and we know - The Sofia Coppola movie and - And I loved it. So I almost unreservedly take back any criticism except for the makeup at the wedding. Anyway, it was great. I highly recommend everybody see it and it just goes to show you that you don't really need a strong ending for your screenplay, which is promising for me. - Oh, I was gonna say that and you don't have to listen to Annie Creek about me there. - Oh, no, no, no, why would they not? This is-- - Don't listen to anything we say. - No, you must, for this concept-- - No, you were being critical of the makeup and now you're-- - Oh, no, I mean, I still-- - You're walking it all back. - I'm not walk, I was just critical of the movie overall and saying like I wasn't, I cast a negative light on the project as a whole for what I realized were very insignificant reasons. I do think they should have fucking made the wedding makeup more intense. I think they could have made the makeup throughout the whole movie more intense. - Generally speaking, her makeup and costumes are restrained except obviously from Rianne Twenette. That's what had me stop. - Yeah, I'm not a big enough expert on what they wore back then to really give an opinion on that either. I'm scared to give-- - But it's worth seeing? - At this point. Oh, absolutely, I wanna see it again and again and whoever made some comments about Jacob Elordi not being a good Elvis and people laughing at his performance at the London premiere, like you need to kick rocks, okay? Because he did such a good job and it had to have been difficult with him being so tall and so angular, but he did it and it wasn't funny, it was good. And I think I just wanna protect Jacob Elordi at all costs. - I mean, I am so much less annoyed by Jacob Elordi than I am by Austin Butler. - Don't get me started on Boz Lerman films. I just think they're so tacky except for Moulin Rouge. - Yeah, but it's almost like Moulin Rouge was the only moment in which his aesthetic crossed the cultural relevance. There was a Venn diagram of Boz Lerman's aesthetic and the aesthetic of the times. Like, when Moulin Rouge came out was like the only time where it didn't feel gaudy and stupid. - Yeah, it was like peak, like-- - I'm like, okay, like it carnival, like Britney Spears. - That was a high culture back then. Yeah, and then they did the music video with Christina Aguilera and Pink. - Yeah. - Why am I forgetting the other? - Maya. - Can we talk about Cassie and Diddy? Not to make this like dark, but like, he's a psychopath. - Yeah, I mean, that's like a pretty, well, allegedly. But yeah, I mean, so what Annie is referring to is a bombshell, I think a pretty bombshell lawsuit that was filed just within the like year. I think it's actually kind of a complicated story because there's typically a statute of limitations. You can't like sue someone 25 years after they-- - Well, criminally, right? - They, you know. - You're talking about like Annie in a criminal court. - I think, but-- - Yeah, because you can sue anybody for anything at any time. And so that's what's happening now. She's like, it's civil court that she's suing him for rape and abuse and anyway. And now, now that she's come forward, it's kind of open the floodgates for more people to like co -sign that he's a fucking psychopath. So enjoy the white party. - Yeah. - All you enablers. - Only information I have to move this story forward is that I one time met Cassie in 2011 at, I feel like a Diddy Listening Party for a new album and she was like delightful and so cool and smart and interesting and fun. - You were going to Diddy Listening Party? party? I think I was an editor at Elle magazine and I got invited to like, you know, a pre -long, you know, I was basically I I was an enabler, I guess. Okay, you heard it here first. Carly Claus just bought ID magazine. She did and I, oh, I appreciate her buying ID magazine saving it. I also like that the picture that they that she, you know, included with the press release is her like in a business suit. Girl bossing. I'm just like, that's a good like, yeah, it's like, you know, you're going to like buy a magazine, make some moves. You better put on a blazer, you know. You know, who is the like global like editorial director for ID is Olivia Singer, who used to write for Into the Gloss. Really? Yeah, my old friend. We interviewed Lindsay Lohan together in London for Into the Gloss. Oh, right. My whole thing about ID magazine or magazines in general is I have I am 40 years old next week. I don't think I've ever opened an issue of ID magazine. Really? I know that you always close one eye if you're on the cover. Yeah. I know that it's like iconic British sort of like was sort of underground Jefferson hack, you know, magazine. But like, I could not tell you what their angle is on fashion and culture. Like what what makes it different from pop magazine? What makes it different from another magazine? Oh, another isn't is in pop British. Is it? I always associate Pop with like... Yeah. Really? They have a strong... And here's my thing, is I think like, explain to me what the difference is between another magazine and ID Magazine and Pop Magazine. Well, we need to also say she bought it because VICE has been just crumbling for the past several years. VICE, which was once like the premier like media agency, like was dominating, like doing Super Bowl commercials and like doing bombshell investigative reporting and pissing people off. And they, but now they're bankrupt and Carly Claus is buying like ID Magazine as if it's like a new like Bergen. So where's, my question is, where's the rise and fall of VICE media book expose? Where are we discussing that? I googled it. I couldn't find it. I think there is a book. Well, I'm just saying. There is an entity that truly did rise and fall. Literally. Right? I'm just trying to, that's a great question. It's hard because when you search VICE, it's, you're not getting magazine. You're getting their own like books that they've published. Yeah. And speaking of girl bossing, did you see the Kim Kardashian GQ man of the year? Yeah. I, here's my thing. I'm checking out of the Kardashians. Let's try. I think it's interesting to me because Kim is free of Kanye and she's like still making like major moves, you know? Because she's famous. I know, but like there's a lot of really famous people that like that are like being boring. boring So okay, so Kim Kardashian was on the cover of GQ men men of the year issue, right and And that made a big splash because obviously she identifies as a woman Yeah, okay, but here's here's a here's a question Who should have been let's let's play outraged Instagram poster, okay, who should have been GQ's man of the year this year? Who was it really the year of George Santos? I'm trying to think of like who really I mean really caused the stir of the year. I Don't know Zelinsky though has had kind of a little downturn and I think approval ratings But if you're gonna get political with it, but I see where you're going with that I see where you're going with that. Okay time historically has named men of the year that are not like quote -unquote good But have just like made a big impact But honestly, I'm drawing a blank. I don't know what man do we care about? None, that's a great question Okay, here's who I would say I'm just look I'm going through the just Jared Instagram account to try to figure out Who should have been man of the year? Okay, you're taking like the people magazine? Yeah, well, no, but I'm just like thinking like who's popping in culture, you know what I mean like who you know There was the year of like Shia LaBeouf Like before all the accusations when he had that Instagram account where it was like all of his outfits Like I would have been like, okay Shia LaBeouf is the man of the year right that year You're wild the year that when he like was I'm saying before the accusations This is GQ it's a fashion magazine. We're not talking about they're like humanitarian work. I know but I'm not the name of this game but it's not even like Kim Kardashian has been like playing with like gender and fashion or like it is a completely random that she's the man of the year what makes her a man that she's like business like a girl boss okay and next you know but like what are they implying by making her the man of the year I'm just like wondering what they're like they're almost like masculine she's a divine masculine okay I don't know about that maybe Harry Styles okay okay he's really talent is he really okay so Mike here's what I say I say Harry Styles is man of the year material David Beckham yeah there you go now we're talking no messy that's a good one messy I think that's a good one Lionel Messi he truly brought like soccer into the mainstream in the US and like the deal that they did oh my god Tom Sandoval wow see this is why you get paid what do you think at CAA I mean UTA I work at UTA what about who else hmm what about that like musical theater nerd who like ended up hugging up with Ariana Grande hmm no too niche okay what are our honest you know who I think is just a kind of set how about Wayne Brady our pansexual king Wayne Brady he's came out as pansexual that was that that didn't get in that didn't get enough like from the comedy show yes okay go off I love that oh my god no here's who it is it's the it's the bear the chef from the bear Jeremy Allen green or whatever his name is you know what Jeremy Allen white he's the man of the year I don't know if I can do another season of cousin I can't do another season of "Cousin" over and over and over again. -I'm sorry. Like everything else-- -What's "Cousin"? -They use the word "cousin" all the time. They're always referring to each other as "cousin." Like, I think it's like a Philly thing or something. -Oh, I-- -I can't take another-- -It takes place in Chicago. -I can't take it. -Doesn't take place in Chicago? -Oh, I don't know. Wherever it does. Also, who-- was it you who was like outraged about the fact? Oh, no, I'm not going to mention who it was. I saw someone on Instagram being like copying, you know, like inspiration much and was posting old Louis magazine covers because the new "The Skims" holiday campaign shot by Nadia Lee Cohen was very, like, Louis magazine -esque. -No, yeah, it was like a one -for -one talk. -Which I say-- Well, but it wasn't-- it was-- it was literally-- that was the-- -That was the conflict. -Right, right. It was an homage. -It was supposed to look like that. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't-- it wasn't like they were, like, they were, like, changing one thing and trying to make it seem like original. I think the whole idea was Louis magazine. The outraged culture-- you know who I bet it was? Was it-- was it Yana, whatever her name is? -No. -Because she-- she, like, called me out one time. You guys-- you guys got into it. You guys got into it. -You guys got into it. -It was really bizarre. -It was like-- -What happened? -Okay, so-- -This is Yana, -for-- aka, Jill Cream, who I adore. -Yeah, like, she's great. -Talented, like-- -Annie thought she did, too, until what happened? I still think she's talented. There's no-- no changing that. Like, I think she-- like, listen, it's great. -I just-- -But-- I had a very weird interaction that I, like, it surprised me. -And also she-- -Tell the readers. We followed each other, so she has a direct line to me, but it was, like, during, like, I think it was the-- the, I mean, still this is happening, you know, people just post online, like they just want to be outraged about anything. And she posted that she took a photo from like a hand cream campaign that was like, it was like a one to one homage to an Irving Penn photo of hands. But like, in our own way, shot by like a super talented photographer who was like, not a hack, who's incredible named Lauren Coleman. And the photo was beautiful. And so was the original. It was nobody was trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes being like, look at this like, concept of a backlit hand that we came up with, you know, but she posted it like publicly to her Instagram, like, basically be like, this is so shameful to like rip off like Irving Penn in this way. I'm like, good God, this like came out of nowhere. And so I just sent her messaging like, hey, like, why are you doing this? This is such a weird thing to like post. Like, if you were mad, why didn't you send me a note? And like, we could have talked about it. But also like, why are you like, I feel like, I feel like what comes, she's like, no, I think it's hands. I think when it comes to hands, there's a lot of sensitivity. That hands are perfect. She did invent hands. And I do think that Yana would would would acknowledge that I have to give it to her. You know, she's very sensitive about hands. Yeah. So maybe that was it. But it was just like, you've got to be kidding me. Anyway, that's my thought. Like, go off. Get mad. Let's talk. I don't know. It's so weird. There's so many I just thought it was weird because there's so many more important things to like be outraged about. And like Irving Penn doesn't need like protecting. protecting Within beauty though, there's not that many things to be outrageous about like within beauty, you know Imagery, I think I did for that day. It was like a good thing to be outraged about I remember being outraged one time where a designer like casted the same model That I did and then like used a very obvious like the same prop like it was clear that like the photo shoots were like Inspired by each other and man. She was like that made you mad Well, it kind of did I don't know I think I was also like working so hard and like I was like giving so much of like myself to like every Piece of creative that came out so like when something did get ripped off It was just like it felt like really unfair. I felt like kind of like stealing from the little guys in a way I don't know. I know people don't like to think about Glossier as like the little guys now But like back then it was like very, you know Elbow grease Anyway, very pure it felt very pure Here's speaking of pure, you know what we didn't talk about last week The fact that goop launched a spin -off brand called good clean goop in Target, I Think I heard about this. Do we think the target customer? Will or target and Amazon it's called good clean goop. It's like cheaper versions of all their products essentially Do we think that the target customer? will embrace the Gwyneth of it all like the Preciousness of that brand Let's think what other brands have entered target that are on that same scale preciously remember when Shabby chic was like the like Premiere design aesthetic and the early odds. Yeah, and then she went into target and it went gang busters I think they still carry her stuff there. Yeah, not Laura Ashley, but I forget No, Rachel Ashe well and there was definitely you knew there was like an ash around it Mm -hmm The other thing we didn't talk about and this is just now. I'm just having a thought is Troy Savon launched a beauty brand No, it's called. It's something in Yiddish Sue Lang your Yeah, he's Jewish What a strange choice. It's called Sue Lang Your what are the products? Oh, he's the creative director. Oh, he's another creative director Snaps first the lab creative director And it means to long years and to good years. Oh It looks nice. He's doing a good job. It's giving Earl Yeah It's him and his brother. I bet I bet URL shot it Is he a photographer or like what's his Okay, Dover Street market. Yeah. Yeah, this is this is very URL coded Good for him. I mean, this looks this looks nice. I think an unorthodox elevation for self -insanctuary You got it, babe. Anyway, welcome to the beauty industry. Welcome. Welcome You have a lot a lot a lot a lot to talk about Selling sunset. Do we want to just skip over? Chris Appleton and Lucas cake We are are and friend of the pod Lucas gauge. Yeah, we are friends We're very sad to report. I'm team Lucas Nick what hop what really? I mean, I am too just I love Lucas I do - fuck Chris Appleton who cares about him. He's a friend of the pot though I thought maybe we would be we would both sides easy Listen, he told remember when he told me that my name was iconic and that I didn't need to change it That seems that's the way I remember the conversation going. I Don't remember that part of the conversation. I do remember he had the best lighting situation that I've ever seen Yeah, he had a lot of lights. Okay, so team Lucas. I guess like a really good squarely team Lucas in this interesting Let's go. Let's go and then the other thing which I actually think is interesting We should talk about is that road beauties CEO who had come from burst What's that one burst or versed? I never know which one it is has already left the company She was only there for a year. I think mm -hmm. Does that feel right? Yes. I I've I have heard that It's not a smooth operation there allegedly Clearly I am allegedly I just it seems like something that you should that is sort of the anatomically Necessary anyway selling sunset arts and culture We barely scratched the surface of this season of selling sunset and my brother is in town and I made him I Was gonna make him watch the reunion with me if I was like, no, it doesn't make any sense We have to start from episode 1 of season 7 and then and I was watching it on my TV Because I normally I watch it on the computer while I'm like doing stuff So this was like in 4k high -def and I really was immersed in the selling sounds that experience and so I started taking notes First of all, Imanza is the star. She I feel like they kind of like keep her as like a side character Like she's gorgeous. She's like a whole lot of woman and like she always wears the wackiest shit Single mom she used to be she's like an interior designer, but now she's in the real estate game and she helps stage the houses and She's a total like goofball But she's actually like Queen of like the whole cast and then there's Emma Emma is the like seven foot like blonde With the empanada company and then there's Barbie Barbie at 1000 % Barbie. What? She has she has an empanada company. Yeah, we talked about this last week I had to go to any of these women sell real estate Apparently they do like apparently Nicole is the top agent But we'll get to Nicole and then there's Mary Lou. So Mary Lou is she's on with all the tattoos. Yes But Mary Lou is like the white horse of this season of this whole franchise Like Mary Lou is too good for this show like I don't know what Jason so Mary Lou is the like 24 year old girlfriend of one of the brothers that owns the real estate firm and He is the one that used to date Chris Shell Who's currently an agent at the company along with two other of his ex -girlfriends who are also agents of the company group? But Chris Shell is his like most recent ex. They had which feels like an HR nightmare They don't have HR by the way. By the way HR is not your friend. So let's stop pretending that HR would like solve true Bullshit HR. Yeah, actually, that's a really great point HR or pigs HR ACAB HR HR more like and oh Then blue line. Yeah, that's when you go and you talk to HR So Chris Shell and Jason's relationship played out on the show. She wanted to have babies He didn't because he's a man child and we all were on my team Chris Shell because she was like so like broken and Whatever we've since discovered like we said last week that Chris Shell is the mean girl and nothing and after seeing again how she treated Mary Lou, who is like the most precious angel that shouldn't have never been on the show to begin with, her cruel, her very cruel, obviously ex who convinced her to be on this show is the problem. But then Crissel continued to emotionally abuse her throughout this season. OK, let's let's. So one thing I was realizing watching the show, we haven't yellow foundation epidemic on reality TV. It needs to stop these makeup artists that do their makeup. They need they need to not everybody is a yellow yellow undertones. Like put the banana powder away. This is fucking insane on all of them, on all of them. We're seeing a lot of wig lines on my computer. I wasn't picking that up on the big screen. Like we're seeing a lot of the lace front wigs across the board. The lashes are so extreme. It's so fucking wild. And really the most uncanny valley thing about watching this show because it's like I said last week, it's like the visual equivalent of ketamine. It's so beyond reality, but like. Realistic enough to. Make the whole experience of watching it very freaky, but the most uncanny valley thing is like their eyebrows, none of the characters eyebrows move. And I know that that's not that interesting. And I know it's so. Yeah, it's well, that's it's a boat. It's a it's a Botox epidemic is really what it is. Yeah, but it's weird like their eyebrows don't move and they'll be like having serious conversations and none of their eyebrows are moving. It just makes it really fucking weird. You know, we were talking about the skims bra, the nipples. That's Mary Lou. And now I get it because Mary Lou is that they have the funniest like. When you say that, you mean like just like young perky. A wrecked nipples 24 /7. Like that's part of the outfit. Like they're like part of the look. That's Mary Lou did that. That was her. So now I understand. the other funny thing about this show is like I You you were like you're done with the Kardashians, but the Kardashians at least like Can form intelligent thoughts and I know that that's a lot of people are gonna be Uh, I mean, okay. I mean yes, but like it's not it's it's it's uh, there's an asterisk Which is like we're not getting more and more intelligent than you would expect selling sunset is Hilarious because we're not gonna really We're getting like the worst comebacks the worst insults like these women do not Go to battle No, I kind of I agree My worst nightmare is I first of all, I don't like to be confrontational I am like I'm having heart palpitations the fact that I brought up the like photo drama with the hands right now Hiding behind my podcast, but If I were to be confrontational if I were to say any of the stupid shit that these women said I don't think I could ever like look in the mirror ever again. I think I would just be so ashamed I like my inability to Express myself intelligently with like a good comeback. Yes so some examples are oh You I heard you said I was a social climber and then This is Emma to Nicole. They're always picking on Nicole. They hate Nicole Nicole's the one with the touch. She's like the tatted up one apparently She's like the longest like agent there, but she also was like Kind of has like the worst taste of all of them and she's married to this fucking dork apparently is charge of like music Like the video game company that does call of duty because when I saw him on the show I was like this dork like has a dorky job and then I was right. I Could just tell you know what I mean like there was like straight dads in LA that like They're not cool. You could smell it. I think they work in the creative industry, but they're like not cool They wear like plaid button downs and hats all the time. You know, like toxic. They probably were born and raised in Southern California. That's her husband and we hate him because he sent a he got involved in like the girl drama and sent a manza who is without fault ever a text that said fuck you because she like got into a stupid argument with his wife. And they're like all friends. Well, you know, it's oh, it never ends well. It never ends well when the husband's so tacky when the husband's husbands get involved. I know this is women's work. Like you need to like go over there and like play your stupid little video games and like not bring your you don't even have it. Fuck you. Like speaking of like terrible like comebacks and unintelligent like fuck you. Like it was so weird. Okay, the one other thing I have one little piece of insider information for those who don't live in Los Angeles. So the Oppenheim group, which is the real estate firm that these people theoretically are employed at had an office before the show on sunset. It was like, you know, basically one office in Sunset Plaza, which is in West Hollywood. And I had dinner across the street at a restaurant last night and I noticed that they've expanded into like the entire like block is now like the Oppenheim group and it's basically a movie set and people it's like a tourist attraction. People were like taking pictures in front of it and like looking into it. They still have those very like steampunk. Yeah, do they still have those ugly desks, those horrible like sheet metal. Yeah, it's steampunk. Yeah. Yeah. Who would? They do. I couldn't work with the Oppenheim. And my sweet, sweet husband, Casey, was like, I just. What? To sit at that desk. Yeah. If I saw those desks, like as a client, I would be like, oh, this is actually not my real estate firm. Like, sorry, we just have different. We have different ideas of how the world should Casey was the word. He was like, oh, I feel bad that they expanded, you know, given that the real estate market isn't, you know, very great right now. And I was like, I think they're fine. They actually, they, they, they, I mean, now they have, they have the OC. They have Cabo. Mm hmm. Yeah. So some amazing moments from episode one and two and three. I think I made him watch all three. One, you have to go if nothing else, you just need to watch the show to see Amanda, our queen, going to a Mexican restaurant for a scene. Wearing a Kawasaki motorcycle, it's like short and jacket combo and leather fingerless, like Carl Larger fell gloves and her sitting there. And oh, in cornrows and like the tightest cornrows you've ever seen in her sitting there with her gloved, fingerless, gloved hands, eating chips and guac is the most. You look, you look suspicious. Like it's not as funny as it is, but I promise you and then they go to the Sheets Goldstein residence, which just seems like the creepiest place. Have you an iconic L .A. house that that no, but like, no, I just don't get invited to parties, but I wouldn't want to go to a party there. It's like very dark energy. It was like a house built by a John Lautner, right? And like the 60s and the women walk in because we all know that they wear like the most insane like Bratz doll outfits on these shows. And they walk in wearing these shoes that are like at least seven inches tall and with huge platforms. And I'm like, and then, but this house has like death traps around every corner. Like every square inch of that house is a lawsuit. I bet you have to sign a release just to go inside. Like they have like windows. It's like floating metal perforated stairs that like completely open up that like on just like a ledge. I'm like, Jesus Christ. And he like, and then they have a club in the house. house I'm like there's people that are just like constantly fucked up here yes there is a nightclub a lot of people that place it's like it's like has to have ghosts everywhere a lot of people have had to die there anyway don't I would allegedly or let's not even say let's just say let's just say it looks dangerous but it's probably fine but it was hilarious seeing them teeter around I bet they did have to sign a release and probably while they were filming I bet it took them half an hour to walk down the stairs anyway that's my take on the first three episodes of Selling Sunset we can revisit this next week if if and when I watch more and Mary Lou is happily and well the reunion is on this week yeah so I should actually watch that and Mary Lou is happily broken up from Jason and is now dating some like other like a guy who doesn't have like public social media who looks very rich and he looks very attractive so I'm happy for her because I think that that is all that's good for her and he seems to really like her and is sweet to her are we gonna do we have time for a project of the week yeah do you have yours ready to go are you using it right now Nick is applying lip balm if you're not watching this on our video exclusive on patreon my product of the week is the lip treatment by Beba de Souza she is a she is Hailey Bieber's dermatologist you know what I don't appreciate is that she's saying it's the product is described as this iconic lip treatment so it's like let let excuse me I'll be the judge of that but it helps it's it's formulated to help plump, moisturize and contour. But you know what I've been doing? And this is what my project of the week is less of a product and more of a tip. If anyone gets really dehydrated in the winter, like just like wakes up dry, your nose is itchy, like your nasal cavity is dry and your throat is scratchy when you wake up, like dry air, et cetera. I've been swiping this lip treatment inside my nose and on my lips when I go to bed. And it's made such a difference like with like how I feel when I wake up. It's like, I don't feel raw and dehydrated. - So cool, how much is it? - Beba D'Souza's lip treatment, iconic lip treatment is $28. - Love that. My product of the week is a really fun one. Well, I was gonna do a lip product, but for a variety of sake. And you're not gonna believe whose brand it's from. Well, it's from KVD Vegan Beauty, formerly known as Kat Von D. - Kat Von D. - But this is a new product called the Dazzle Stick. And it's basically like a - - Dazzle? - Dazzle with a D. - Dazzle. - And it is a cream, creamy like bullet in a lipstick too. But it is an eye shadow stick. And it comes, I believe in four colors, but I only recommend one of them. And it is called Lash Storm 30. I don't know why it has the word lash in it, but it does. And it is a duochrome beautiful. It has duochrome pearl, not pearl, but like glitter flecks. And then, but it's in like a cool toned, almost rose gold, but more taupe, creamy metallic base. And Nick, I'm demonstrating for you. - I can't see. It's like the, you're frozen. You've been frozen basically the whole time. - Wonderful. Well, it's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful metallic holiday eye. It's so easy, you can sheer it out, you can build it up. And it is just the prettiest color I've seen in a long time for an eye product. You can get it at Sephora. - Would you do a little holiday eye tutorial on our Patreon? - Maybe I could do that. I feel, to be honest, I feel so self -conscious doing those makeup tutorials. - It feels, like I feel, it feels so desperate. - Honestly, don't, don't, we are, and don't. - Oh, we are desperate. - Here's what I want to say. And this is, these are notes from our new producer, Mr. Jonathan Kornman. We will be dropping new episodes and we'll be literally dropping them every Friday. Our extended video episodes, however, we're now, we're now filming these live and in the flesh on the internet are dropping on Thursday on Patreon. So our Patreon subscribers, patreon .com /iwitnessbeauty will be getting a full 24 hour head start with video of everything we talk about each week. And every first Monday of the month starting next month, we're going to do a bonus episode where we answer reader questions. You can email a voice note or a written question to hi @iwitnesspudy .com and we're going to answer all these questions in our bonus monthly episodes. 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