Was There Collusion Between Heuermann & Suffolk Police Chief?
Sep 13, 2023, 05:00 PM
The latest episode of "Hidden Killers" casts new doubts, raises old suspicions, and seeks a deeper understanding of the perplexing Gilgo Beach murders. The narrative becomes murkier as Tony Brueski sits down with psychotherapist and author, Shavaun Scott, to dissect the bold claims made by John Ray, an attorney for some of the victims. The question in focus: Was Rex Heuermann part of a larger, insidious criminal network, or was this a tragic series of individual crimes?
John Ray's audacious statement suggests Heuermann was embroiled in a "large criminal enterprise" rather than being a lone predator. The claim has set the crime community abuzz. Scott expressed skepticism, observing, "It strikes me as desperate and throwing out anything to try to deflect the focus from him. It doesn't make any sense." Ray's statement gains more weight, considering his decade-long association with the Gilgo Beach case, even before Heuermann emerged as a significant figure.
A notable twist emerges when considering Heuermann's potential connection to the now-incarcerated former police chief. The speculation follows the possible overlapping circles the two may have moved in, suggesting a tacit agreement to shield each other from scrutiny. Brueski muses on the odds of such a connection, "What are the odds that there could be a connection between the two of I rub your back, you rub mine?" Scott weighed in, noting the rarity of collusion in such cases and characterizing the narrative as something out of a cinematic thriller, but added, "I don't know that we can rule anything out."
Attention then turns to Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's wife, whose behavior in the wake of the revelations has been under the scanner. As her husband stands accused of heinous crimes, the community has mixed reactions to how she has been navigating the aftermath. Scott offers a compassionate perspective, "Finding out that the person you're married to and you've been living with all those years could actually psychologically shatter a lot of people." With children to care for, one with developmental challenges, Elra's situation remains uniquely challenging.
Addressing what advice could potentially be offered to someone in Asa's situation, Scott mentions the importance of support. "The only generic advice I would give is to have as much support as you possibly can." The unprecedented nature of Asa's ordeal is highlighted with a moment of levity when Brueski half-jokingly proposes a book on handling the revelation of a spouse being a serial killer. Scott, with a chuckle, acknowledges the rarity of the situation, adding, "Maybe I should write that one."
The conversation circles back to Ellerup's current mental state, with Scott observing signs of depression and the added strain of battling cancer. The assessment underlines the importance of reserving judgment and extending empathy. "She is probably not in the right frame of mind to have the best judgment," Scott adds, emphasizing the devastating impact such revelations can have on a person's well-being.
As the episode concludes, listeners are left pondering the intertwined lives of those connected to the Gilgo Beach murders. The mystery of Rex Heuermann's alleged actions and the ripple effects on his family and the community continue to unfold, bringing forth more questions than answers.
"Hidden Killers" once again delivers a gripping narrative, intertwined with expert insights, making listeners eagerly await the next installment in this perplexing crime saga.
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John Ray's audacious statement suggests Heuermann was embroiled in a "large criminal enterprise" rather than being a lone predator. The claim has set the crime community abuzz. Scott expressed skepticism, observing, "It strikes me as desperate and throwing out anything to try to deflect the focus from him. It doesn't make any sense." Ray's statement gains more weight, considering his decade-long association with the Gilgo Beach case, even before Heuermann emerged as a significant figure.
A notable twist emerges when considering Heuermann's potential connection to the now-incarcerated former police chief. The speculation follows the possible overlapping circles the two may have moved in, suggesting a tacit agreement to shield each other from scrutiny. Brueski muses on the odds of such a connection, "What are the odds that there could be a connection between the two of I rub your back, you rub mine?" Scott weighed in, noting the rarity of collusion in such cases and characterizing the narrative as something out of a cinematic thriller, but added, "I don't know that we can rule anything out."
Attention then turns to Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's wife, whose behavior in the wake of the revelations has been under the scanner. As her husband stands accused of heinous crimes, the community has mixed reactions to how she has been navigating the aftermath. Scott offers a compassionate perspective, "Finding out that the person you're married to and you've been living with all those years could actually psychologically shatter a lot of people." With children to care for, one with developmental challenges, Elra's situation remains uniquely challenging.
Addressing what advice could potentially be offered to someone in Asa's situation, Scott mentions the importance of support. "The only generic advice I would give is to have as much support as you possibly can." The unprecedented nature of Asa's ordeal is highlighted with a moment of levity when Brueski half-jokingly proposes a book on handling the revelation of a spouse being a serial killer. Scott, with a chuckle, acknowledges the rarity of the situation, adding, "Maybe I should write that one."
The conversation circles back to Ellerup's current mental state, with Scott observing signs of depression and the added strain of battling cancer. The assessment underlines the importance of reserving judgment and extending empathy. "She is probably not in the right frame of mind to have the best judgment," Scott adds, emphasizing the devastating impact such revelations can have on a person's well-being.
As the episode concludes, listeners are left pondering the intertwined lives of those connected to the Gilgo Beach murders. The mystery of Rex Heuermann's alleged actions and the ripple effects on his family and the community continue to unfold, bringing forth more questions than answers.
"Hidden Killers" once again delivers a gripping narrative, intertwined with expert insights, making listeners eagerly await the next installment in this perplexing crime saga.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com