Dr. Katherine Ramsland Interview: Behind The Mind Of BTK Part 5
Sep 14, 2023, 01:00 AM
An in-depth understanding of notorious serial killer, Dennis Rader, famously known as the BTK (Bind, Torture, Kill) Killer, was discussed on the acclaimed podcast, "Hidden Killers," hosted by Tony Brueski. Dr. Katherine Ramsland, author of Rader's autobiography, provided unique insights into his motivations and mindset during her five-part conversation on the show.
"Dennis Rader was in a cat-and-mouse game with the media and the police. He enjoyed the thrill of being in the spotlight, while remaining anonymous," noted Ramsland. This aspect of Rader's behavior emerged after the arrest of three men by the police for the Otero murders, which Rader had committed. Upset by what he saw as a waste of taxpayer money, Rader contacted a reporter to correct the police's mistake and claim the murders for himself.
"He wrote a long description of the Otero murders and said, 'I'm the only one who did this," Ramsland elaborated, adding that Rader had even placed his confession in an engineering book at the Wichita State University Library. This marked the beginning of Rader's obsession with notoriety, leading him to model his actions after infamous killers like Jack the Ripper and Ted Bundy.
Ramsland explained that Rader often sent letters to the media about his crimes and even wrote poems about his victims. Despite this, he remained silent about his last three victims. He emerged from his silence only when an attorney planned to write a book about his murders. "Rader decided he did not want someone writing his story," said Ramsland, which prompted him to re-engage in his cat-and-mouse game with the media.
Regarding Rader's view of society, Ramsland disclosed, "he does have a fan club because lots and lots of people write to him. Send him money. Want some kind of association with him. Lots of people do. So he still enjoys seeing his name." Even after his arrest and imprisonment, Rader continues to yearn for the notoriety that his heinous crimes have granted him.
Despite his desire for infamy, Ramsland firmly believes that Rader does not have any undisclosed victims. She clarified, "I know that the ones that he is currently being questioned about, there's no evidence linking him to them. I would never say that's it. He's telling us the full truth. But that doesn't mean, I think the case is currently under investigation will be successfully resolved with him indicted."
One of the key lessons Ramsland learned from her work with Rader is the need to move beyond established norms when examining serial killers. Rader, an active member of his community and a Boy Scout volunteer, didn't fit the typical serial killer profile. She argued, "We need to learn that our formulas are strictly trying to make us feel safe, and they're not necessarily true. Rader's case shows us that."
As for Rader's future plans, Ramsland stated, "I don't think he has aspirations like, oh, I wanna be a commentator." Instead, he sees his participation in the book as a way of making a positive contribution, potentially aiding in the early intervention and prevention of criminal behavior like his own.
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"Dennis Rader was in a cat-and-mouse game with the media and the police. He enjoyed the thrill of being in the spotlight, while remaining anonymous," noted Ramsland. This aspect of Rader's behavior emerged after the arrest of three men by the police for the Otero murders, which Rader had committed. Upset by what he saw as a waste of taxpayer money, Rader contacted a reporter to correct the police's mistake and claim the murders for himself.
"He wrote a long description of the Otero murders and said, 'I'm the only one who did this," Ramsland elaborated, adding that Rader had even placed his confession in an engineering book at the Wichita State University Library. This marked the beginning of Rader's obsession with notoriety, leading him to model his actions after infamous killers like Jack the Ripper and Ted Bundy.
Ramsland explained that Rader often sent letters to the media about his crimes and even wrote poems about his victims. Despite this, he remained silent about his last three victims. He emerged from his silence only when an attorney planned to write a book about his murders. "Rader decided he did not want someone writing his story," said Ramsland, which prompted him to re-engage in his cat-and-mouse game with the media.
Regarding Rader's view of society, Ramsland disclosed, "he does have a fan club because lots and lots of people write to him. Send him money. Want some kind of association with him. Lots of people do. So he still enjoys seeing his name." Even after his arrest and imprisonment, Rader continues to yearn for the notoriety that his heinous crimes have granted him.
Despite his desire for infamy, Ramsland firmly believes that Rader does not have any undisclosed victims. She clarified, "I know that the ones that he is currently being questioned about, there's no evidence linking him to them. I would never say that's it. He's telling us the full truth. But that doesn't mean, I think the case is currently under investigation will be successfully resolved with him indicted."
One of the key lessons Ramsland learned from her work with Rader is the need to move beyond established norms when examining serial killers. Rader, an active member of his community and a Boy Scout volunteer, didn't fit the typical serial killer profile. She argued, "We need to learn that our formulas are strictly trying to make us feel safe, and they're not necessarily true. Rader's case shows us that."
As for Rader's future plans, Ramsland stated, "I don't think he has aspirations like, oh, I wanna be a commentator." Instead, he sees his participation in the book as a way of making a positive contribution, potentially aiding in the early intervention and prevention of criminal behavior like his own.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com