Identifying 'Red Flags' In Heuermann's Family Behavior
Aug 25, 2023, 01:00 PM
In a recent episode of the popular podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski engaged in a deep discussion with retired FBI Special Agent and Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, Robin Dreeke, about the legitimacy and motives behind a controversial GoFundMe campaign related to Rex Heuermann's wife. Heuermann is linked to the Gilgo Beach murder victims.
Brueski opened the dialogue, inquiring about attorney John Ray's stance. Ray represents some of the Gilgo Beach murder victims. He expressed concerns that Heuermann's wife might be "conning the public" with the GoFundMe campaign. "They have wealth, they have money they may not appear to, but he believes they're worth quite a bit and have property in multiple states," Brueski noted.
Brueski opened the dialogue, inquiring about attorney John Ray's stance. Ray represents some of the Gilgo Beach murder victims. He expressed concerns that Heuermann's wife might be "conning the public" with the GoFundMe campaign. "They have wealth, they have money they may not appear to, but he believes they're worth quite a bit and have property in multiple states," Brueski noted.
True Crime Today and Hidden Killers Podcast does not have proof of what Ray is suggesting. Authorities had initially ruled out any involvement of Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, stating that she had an alibi at the time of the crimes.
Dreeke responded with a pragmatic viewpoint, touching upon the possible need for the campaign. "I did hear...that since she's covered under his medical...she might lose that and her medical capabilities to take care of that. And I don't know what the government sees from him either, even though they do have money. Was it in her name? Is she joined? There's a lot of admin and logistics kind of things."
The podcast episode took a critical look at society's readiness to support such campaigns without delving deeper into the context or ensuring that funds go where they are genuinely needed. Brueski voiced a shared concern about people's eagerness to "put a bandaid on a huge problem." He said, "emotion plays a big deal in...I want to give them some money and, and it'll make me feel good about doing that."
Another point of contention is a substantial $80,000 tax levy against the Heuermanns. Brueski pointed out, "I would be wondering if some of this GoFundMe money, once it hits an account, is going to be taken by the government to pay off Heuermann's tax bill."
Dreeke added to this, emphasizing the human need for connection and compassion, especially after tragedies. "People have an incessant need... of wanting to be connected, want to be compassionate, want to tout that as not just as altruism but also for their own ego and vanity." He also warned about potential fraud in such fundraising campaigns, suggesting that without proper controls, things can easily go astray.
The duo agreed on the importance of seeking clarity and transparency in these situations. Dreeke, sharing his expertise on deception indicators, said, "When you don't have a lot of clarity, you should be able to seek clarity and transparency when these things pop up." He continued, "If this is on the up and up, I should be able to have my questions answered quickly, efficiently, and transparently so that I no longer have questions."
Brueski echoed this sentiment, suggesting there seem to be "a lot of...yield signs on this" GoFundMe campaign. Both urged caution for potential contributors, advising listeners to ensure they are fully informed before making any financial commitments.
The episode underscores the increasing complexities of online fundraising and the moral and ethical implications surrounding them. With the rise of platforms like GoFundMe, where anyone can ask for financial help for nearly any reason, there's a growing need for diligence, transparency, and caution from both campaigners and potential donors.
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Dreeke responded with a pragmatic viewpoint, touching upon the possible need for the campaign. "I did hear...that since she's covered under his medical...she might lose that and her medical capabilities to take care of that. And I don't know what the government sees from him either, even though they do have money. Was it in her name? Is she joined? There's a lot of admin and logistics kind of things."
The podcast episode took a critical look at society's readiness to support such campaigns without delving deeper into the context or ensuring that funds go where they are genuinely needed. Brueski voiced a shared concern about people's eagerness to "put a bandaid on a huge problem." He said, "emotion plays a big deal in...I want to give them some money and, and it'll make me feel good about doing that."
Another point of contention is a substantial $80,000 tax levy against the Heuermanns. Brueski pointed out, "I would be wondering if some of this GoFundMe money, once it hits an account, is going to be taken by the government to pay off Heuermann's tax bill."
Dreeke added to this, emphasizing the human need for connection and compassion, especially after tragedies. "People have an incessant need... of wanting to be connected, want to be compassionate, want to tout that as not just as altruism but also for their own ego and vanity." He also warned about potential fraud in such fundraising campaigns, suggesting that without proper controls, things can easily go astray.
The duo agreed on the importance of seeking clarity and transparency in these situations. Dreeke, sharing his expertise on deception indicators, said, "When you don't have a lot of clarity, you should be able to seek clarity and transparency when these things pop up." He continued, "If this is on the up and up, I should be able to have my questions answered quickly, efficiently, and transparently so that I no longer have questions."
Brueski echoed this sentiment, suggesting there seem to be "a lot of...yield signs on this" GoFundMe campaign. Both urged caution for potential contributors, advising listeners to ensure they are fully informed before making any financial commitments.
The episode underscores the increasing complexities of online fundraising and the moral and ethical implications surrounding them. With the rise of platforms like GoFundMe, where anyone can ask for financial help for nearly any reason, there's a growing need for diligence, transparency, and caution from both campaigners and potential donors.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com