Former FBI Robin Dreeke On Why Police Haven't Questioned Heuermann's Wife
Episode 52, Aug 24, 2023, 01:00 PM
Recent revelations surrounding the Rex Heuermann case have left many perplexed, especially after the sudden removal of the suspect from suicide watch. On the latest episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski seeks insight from retired FBI Special Agent and Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, Robin Dreeke.
Rex Heuermann, an older individual facing mounting evidence against him, had recently been taken off suicide watch, sparking a flurry of questions from the public. Addressing the issue, Brueski asked, "Is this a good idea to take someone like that off of a suicide watch or is it really very stressful on resources to really keep somebody on there for a long period of time?"
Dreeke responded by emphasizing the surprising nature of Heuermann's initial placement on suicide watch. "So let's look at serial killers. One of the driving motivations of them is sensationalism fantasy seeking, and since they all edge up high in psychopathy, they're about grandiosity and notoriety," he stated. Serial killers, according to Dreeke, are not typically inclined towards self-harm due to their desire for attention and recognition.
But with Heuermann, it appears that nothing is simple. As Dreeke mentioned, "It's gonna be interesting because, you know, I listened to his lawyer speak earlier today and it was interesting because he, the lawyer seems as convinced as he can be that Rex is innocent." Further complicating matters is the shocking discovery of Heuermann's wife's hair on three of the alleged victims' bodies.
"It's a very hard one to explain away," Dreeke noted. There's been significant debate about whether this evidence necessarily ties Heuermann's wife to the crimes. "It's interesting, especially given that her DNA, because of the hair, was found with the bodies," remarked Dreeke. However, as of the recording, law enforcement had not interviewed the wife, which has only intensified public speculation.
Brueski probed further, asking why law enforcement hadn't sought a conversation with Heuermann's wife, given the circumstances. "You would think if her DNA was found with the deceased bodies that she would at least be interviewed early," Dreeke responded.
Surprisingly, Dreeke suggested that there might be a strategic reason behind law enforcement's choice to avoid an immediate interview. "There's gotta be a reason and a strategy that they're not interviewing her or haven't interviewed yet," Dreeke mused. He also mentioned her undergoing cancer treatment, indicating that health concerns might be a factor in the decision.
Despite the uncertainties surrounding the Heuermann case, one thing is clear: the public's desire for answers remains unsatisfied. With Heuermann's wife set to appear on a news segment soon, many are hopeful that some clarity will finally emerge.
As Dreeke aptly summed up the current state of the investigation: "It'll be interesting because I think she's going on the news coming up. And so I think we'll probably learn more about what she says on TV than we do from law enforcement, maybe."
With many questions still unanswered, the public can only wait and see how the Rex Heuermann case unfolds, hoping for justice to be served for all involved.
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Rex Heuermann, an older individual facing mounting evidence against him, had recently been taken off suicide watch, sparking a flurry of questions from the public. Addressing the issue, Brueski asked, "Is this a good idea to take someone like that off of a suicide watch or is it really very stressful on resources to really keep somebody on there for a long period of time?"
Dreeke responded by emphasizing the surprising nature of Heuermann's initial placement on suicide watch. "So let's look at serial killers. One of the driving motivations of them is sensationalism fantasy seeking, and since they all edge up high in psychopathy, they're about grandiosity and notoriety," he stated. Serial killers, according to Dreeke, are not typically inclined towards self-harm due to their desire for attention and recognition.
But with Heuermann, it appears that nothing is simple. As Dreeke mentioned, "It's gonna be interesting because, you know, I listened to his lawyer speak earlier today and it was interesting because he, the lawyer seems as convinced as he can be that Rex is innocent." Further complicating matters is the shocking discovery of Heuermann's wife's hair on three of the alleged victims' bodies.
"It's a very hard one to explain away," Dreeke noted. There's been significant debate about whether this evidence necessarily ties Heuermann's wife to the crimes. "It's interesting, especially given that her DNA, because of the hair, was found with the bodies," remarked Dreeke. However, as of the recording, law enforcement had not interviewed the wife, which has only intensified public speculation.
Brueski probed further, asking why law enforcement hadn't sought a conversation with Heuermann's wife, given the circumstances. "You would think if her DNA was found with the deceased bodies that she would at least be interviewed early," Dreeke responded.
Surprisingly, Dreeke suggested that there might be a strategic reason behind law enforcement's choice to avoid an immediate interview. "There's gotta be a reason and a strategy that they're not interviewing her or haven't interviewed yet," Dreeke mused. He also mentioned her undergoing cancer treatment, indicating that health concerns might be a factor in the decision.
Despite the uncertainties surrounding the Heuermann case, one thing is clear: the public's desire for answers remains unsatisfied. With Heuermann's wife set to appear on a news segment soon, many are hopeful that some clarity will finally emerge.
As Dreeke aptly summed up the current state of the investigation: "It'll be interesting because I think she's going on the news coming up. And so I think we'll probably learn more about what she says on TV than we do from law enforcement, maybe."
With many questions still unanswered, the public can only wait and see how the Rex Heuermann case unfolds, hoping for justice to be served for all involved.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com