The Heisenberg Method with Phil & Ric

Episode 84. This week, it's all crank. Keith's long-time buddy Phil and his pops, Ric—a founding congregant of the Church of the Crystal Methodists—tell stories of tweakers, psychosis, chemistry and cooking, from San Gabriel to Covina back before Walter White was Walter White. Today they're sober and successful musicians. Check 'em out at wildcardqm.com/