20 Feb 2022 | Question Of The Week, Listener Emails and Patreon Thanks

Tesla recently updated the Model Y Standard Range and the 0-60 time slowed by 1.5 seconds. There was a time when Tesla fans dismissed any other EV because they weren’t quick enough, but when making a purchasing decision, how important do you personally rate performance.

RAJ BADWAL

0 to 60 never was a factor for me until… I got a Model 3 LR.  Now, I love the car but the low seating and rubbish boot access made it really hard to live with. So I started looking at other options like the EV6, Ioniq5 and Enyaq. They all felt too slow!! Now I’m no boy racer/ road F1 racer but I have got used to that power and didn’t even realise. Pulling out of junctions and merging onto motorways is just effortless. 

I very nearly got the Enyaq as I do love the space and seats etc.. but then the Model Y became available so I ordered that instead which ticks all the boxes :) Actually prefer the Enyaq design (Don’t tell the Tesla fan boys I said that) but super charging network and Tesla tech wins hands down.  

RAJEEV NARAYAN

Part what makes an EV fun to drive for me is the performance. I love the instant torque and a 0-60 time of 6 seconds or better is my preference. I don’t’ kneed sub 3 second 0-60 times. That being said, there are still a lot of EV sceptics out there, and so I think given EVs good performance goes a long way towards widespread acceptance that EVs, are better and more fun. 

TODD OAKES (via Twitter)

QOW: all EV’s perform so much better than ICE it’s not even an issue. When choosing an EV, I will look for comfort, good charging speed, and enough range for my commute.

JASPER

My wife and I used to be on very opposite sides of the spectrum with regards to vehicle performance. I liked the ability to feel the road and let the car push you back into the seat on occasion, but she got massively car sick. This has regulated us to the softer side of suspensions as well as cars that sat taller and had more visibility. 

Over time, I've lost my appetite for speed anyway and now enjoy a comfortable drive more, so long as I still have enough power to overtake when needed. I am definitely looking forward to when Electric car's don't all have to be super-cars, and the price can go down.

Finally, there are no tracks near me to really put cars to the test anyway. I still see various people racing on the highway, but now that I've got kids in the car, safety and reliability have become paramount. 

TOMAS

Most of the cars I owned were kind of slow. Like 8 second to 100km/h or more. Just a slow and reliable 2 liter diesel or similar and they were more than enough, but then my colleague bought one of the early Model X 100D and let me try.

It was a rocket, haven't experienced anything of sorts in my life, especially when you don't expect it from big SUV.

Then I went back to my slow diesel 🙂 Performance Teslas were way out of my pocket.

Until few years later I bought Model 3 LR. 4,4sec to 100km/h.

It is addictive. 

Then I changed Model 3 to Audi Q4 e-tron 50. 6,2 sec to 100km/h, it is fine, but I was spoiled, Audi is just too slow.

So...

No, I don't need that performance, 90% of the time I am stuck in a slow traffic. 

No, I don't need performance, I can't drive fast on highways, because I have a toddler in the back seat, and I am a responsible father.

But also Yes, I have a strech of a straight road were speed limit goes from 40 to 60. I approach the 60 sign probably at 30km/h and then baaaam.

And there are situations were you actually need those horse powers, like overtaking someone.

So that is why I have Performance Model Y on order. 

I am just a boy in middle aged mans body. 🙂

LT KWOK

Dear Martin, I have a Tesla Model 3 performance (3 seconds 0-60). I’ve mashed the accelerator a few times for the fun of it.   (My last vehicle had a 0-60 of 7 seconds).  But it has gotten old.   If my next vehicle did 5 seconds, it would be fine.   Leung Kwok. 

NICK CHRISTEN

performance does not impact buying decisions. range is the biggest concern (i broached the idea of an ev as a 3rd car for when i am doing errands with only one or two kids and it was not an option).

MIKE

After almost 3 years with an all wheel drive Model 3, it clearly has acceleration capability my wife (the owner) never uses and would never miss.  I have enjoyed using the acceleration occasionally when overtaking, but it could be a lot less without causing any pain.  So we would not rate acceleration very high for our next EV.

Jean-François Dumont-Roussin

I would have rated it next to last before 2019, but the purchase of my SR+ Model 3 in 2019 has made me understand why so many people value it. I have since upgraded to a 2021 SR+ and now I have a 2022 LFP on order, both being performance downgrades. Despite loving the performance, you can see it still isnt a priority for me as long as it has electric torque and remains under 7 seconds 0-60.

FOLLOW UPS

DAVID ALLEN ON CHARGING NETWORKS

Unfortunately the states are mostly unreliable players in building charging infrastructure since Red states reject the whole concept of EVs. They might spend the money, but will do so in a manner that rewards the politically connected cronies, while sabotaging the long term intent of the spending. Seems to me that the only group who might do a good job building charging networks are the electric utilities, since they have the most to gain by creating a new market for their “product”. Some one creating a charging network must acquire land and then pay staggering fees to get huge power connections to that site, whereas the utilities already own tons of land, or have right of ways on land they could then use cheaply to set up stations. They also have the service staff to build, install, and maintain the equipment, and the profit motive to keep the equipment in working condition. They could set up the charging network so that using it was billed to your home account, simplifying the accounting.

DAVE JOHNSON ON TESLA RECALLS

People are asking with Tesla is being "singled out" for political or other reasons.  I think it is simply being a victim of their own success.  Businesses face greater regulatory scrutiny as their product's installed base grows, commensurate with the safety concerns associated with the product.  Cars are obviously deadly products if they fail or are misused in some way.  And 1 million cars with a rare safety defect is different from 10,000 with a rare safety defect.  There are reasons big companies adopt some of the slower, methodical approaches to product introduction and update.  That is, they have financial and other risks involved if they make a significant mistake.  And doing so in a high-volume manufacturing context makes these risks even larger.  Much as Tesla has influenced the automobile industry, so too must Tesla understand that it has a greater responsibility with regard to safety and compliance of its products as it has graduated from a "boutique" producer to a mass manufacturer.

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