31 May 2020 | BMW M5 rumoured to go electric
BMW M5 rumoured to go electric and offer Bugatti Veyron power | Cumulative Number Of NIO Power Battery Swaps Reaches 500,000 | Renault Could Make Alpine Go Electric-Only To Save The Brand | German ministry proposes €5 billion car bonus scheme
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2024 BMW M5 RUMOURED TO GO ELECTRIC AND OFFER BUGATTI VEYRON POWER
"Now that we know the full scoop on the updated BMW 5 Series, which was finally revealed and shown to the public just a few days ago, enthusiasts are still waiting on the performance version of BMWs seventh-generation midsize saloon, the BMW M5. While it was teased on Instagram by Markus Falsch himself with a reveal supposedly to come in the following weeks, the future of the M5 seems to be electrified." Reports Motor1.com: "According to a source that Car Magazine stumbled upon, expect the next-generation M5 to be packing serious power via electric motors. Internal documents and some guesswork say that the PHEV will be using the same engine in the upcoming X8 M; a twin-turbocharged 4.4-litre V8 with an electric motor that has a combined output of 750 bhp. The M5 full-electric will be powered by Gen V pouch-type batteries, with Car Magazine noting that they could switch to Tesla-style round cells for stability, safety, and added performance. The energy cell is supposedly rated at 135kWh and can be hooked up to a 400V charger that can accommodate up to 350kW. It is also likely that BMW will upgrade to an 800V charger like the one by Porsche and the Taycan. With a maximum projected WLTP range of 435 miles, total power is suggested at 1006 bhp in total with a 0-62mph of just 2.9 seconds."
350kW on a 400v battery would be something around 875 amps - I don't believe it.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/2024-bmw-m5-rumoured-electric-163000021.html
CUMULATIVE NUMBER OF NIO POWER BATTERY SWAPS REACHES 500,000
"On May 25, NIO reached a milestone of 500,000 cumulative EV battery swaps in China by its ES6 and ES8 cars. The first NIO Power battery swap station was opened on May 20, 2018 so it’s basically two years. For comparison, the number of cumulative NIO car sales are over 38,900." Says Highway Tale: "Over those two years, NIO installed a total of 131 stations (as of May 20) in 58 cities and plans to add some 50 more in 2020 to enhance long-distance travel. Not all of the close to 40,000 NIO drivers are using battery swap – some did not need to use it, while others might be in areas without battery swap stations. According to data from March, 48.7% of all cars sold at least once used the station. All NIO vehicles are enabled to use the swap stations and the station offers both pack capacities – 70 kWh and 84 kWh. Soon there will be also a 100 kWh pack option. NIO is also developing and 2nd generation of battery swap stations, which will not require the vehicles to be lifted up. It should be simpler, more reliable and cheaper, as well as save time for users. NIO encourages its customers to schedule the battery swapping, so you are assured of a set time, and won’t have to wait for other cars that may have arrived before you.
https://highwaytale.com/car-reviews/cumulative-number-of-nio-power-battery-swaps-reaches-500000-2/
RENAULT COULD MAKE ALPINE GO ELECTRIC-ONLY TO SAVE THE BRAND: REPORT
"It was distressing to hear that Renault’s Dieppe plant, home to sportscar sub-brand Alpine, will likely be closed as the french Automaker attempts to right itself after the impact of the pandemic on business. We thought that closure would once again be the end of Alpine, but apparently there’s still hope." Reports Jalopnik: "According to a report from Autocar, Alpine may actually survive the tumult despite some initial reports to the contrary, but when it emerges it could be looking at an all-electric future. It’s not totally set in stone yet, though. Autocar explains that the brand’s fate will only be decided once new Renault CEO Luca di Meo begins his tenure in July. Total electrification will certainly a price to pay for a sports car brand that has long traded on simplicity and low curb weight, but I think it’ll be worth it. lpine needs to sell more cars than it currently does. The benchmark goal of 6000 units per year that Renault set for the brand three years ago has been impossible to reach thus far with fewer than 4500 units moved last year. Renault has proven that the company is serious about making electric cars work, even if unorthodox approaches might be necessary to get there. On the other side of things, it’s clear that electric sports cars can work too. Between Tesla’s Ludicrous Mode, Volkswagen’s i.D. R racecar, and plenty of other examples, the prospects for electric sports cars are really good."
https://jalopnik.com/renault-could-make-alpine-go-electric-only-to-save-the-1843794070
GERMAN MINISTRY PROPOSES €5 BILLION CAR BONUS SCHEME
"Germany's Ministry of Economics has proposed a 5 billion euro (£4.5 billion) buyer bonus scheme as part of an impending stimulus package in an effort to boost car sales, two people close to the matter said on Sunday." According to Yahoo! News: "The heads of the co-governing Social Democrats (SPD) and Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU) are expected to present the overall stimulus package on Tuesday, which could total up to 80 billion euros, according to one media report. The economy ministry's proposal is for purchase premiums to be paid to buyers of electric vehicles and conventionally powered cars worth less than 77,350 euros each, with the scheme expiring at the end of the year, the sources said. The economy ministry's plans foresee a basic premium of 2,500 euros per car, which would be topped up by 500 euros for fuel-efficient vehicles. Existing incentive programmes would be increased by 1,500 euros for electric cars and 750 euros for hybrids. A slew of policymakers and industry groups have spoken out against premiums for car purchases, arguing that the stimulus programme should adhere to climate-change policies and not favour a single industry."
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/german-ministry-proposes-5-billion-172933074.html
QOTW ANSWERS
PODBEAN LISTENER!
Ordered the Tesla cyber truck but I haven't got a clue what I'm gonna do with it living in suburban Chislehurst going to be fairly large!
HOWARD ANTHONY SMITH via PATREON
I realize you live in a country that does not have a pickup truck culture. I grew up in the western part of the United States where pickup trucks were pretty much a necessity. For example, we did not have a paved road for many years. There are still some locations where the road surfaces still need to be regularly grated and tire ruts need to be filled in with gravel. It is from those experiences that truck were outfitted with gear to handle all challenges. All trucks needed protected storage, extended range, spare tires, a heavy lift jack, all terrain tires, camping equipment, and comfortable bench seats. I had dreamed of an all electric pickup from Ford for years...until I saw the Rivian. Then I saw the price tag and went back into dreaming mode. My current pickup truck of choice is the Tesla Cybertruck. It has everything I want plus it wins top trumps against most sports cars. Also, I have a reservation for one. It is going to work great with our off grid travel trailer.
RAJEEV NARAYAN
The ideal specs of an electric pickup truck are those that would entice these truck buyers who are largely EVs naïve. Currently, the top selling trucks in America is the Ford F -series. Chief among them is the F-150. The Ford F-150 XL starts at $28,700 which is too cheap right now for an EV to compete with, but on the higher end- the Lariat and King Ranch sell for $45K to upwards of $60K. An electric Pickup truck with aggressive styling, similar price, all wheel drive, a Range of around 450 miles and a 0-60 of 5 seconds or less with a towing capacity of around 10,000 lbs, will do well.
DAVID NYE
Great range, and charging network.
Great towing capacity (to tow my 3 tonne caravan with ease).
Great technology including autopilot capabilities.
Great comfort for at least four or five people.
Great safety, including both primary AND secondary safety.
Great “toughness”, including being able to cop door dings in the carpark (and maybe even sledgehammer blows:-) without significant damage.
Cutting edge design.
Reasonable affordability.
NIGEL BAKER
It should have a lift-gate fitted as standard so it can fulfill its description.
MARTY YOUNG
Regarding desired specs for an electric pickup truck, it all boils down to one thing...range...lots and lots of range...more range than may seem reasonable at first glance! Why? Because many people buy a pickup truck for one reason - to tow things: boats, campers, and trailers of all types.
And towing even a medium-sized camper will reduce your range by at least half! So for an EV pickup to be taken seriously by typical truck buyers, it will need a listed range of at least 500 or 600 miles so it can reliably travel a couple hundred miles between charges while towing.
AJ TARQUINO
How about Tesla offering the option of a small refrigerator to their cyber truck and installing a permanent one in the back or in the frunk ??
This would be grand and I, for one, would want one...
Think of the advantage of buying groceries that need to stay cold or frozen on the drive back home. This would make a huge convince of not having to say “I have to hurry and get home, I have ice cream that I don’t want to melt !!” What about using one for camping or overnight stays !!
Their 110/220 volts are already there, making it simple to add a unit to keep a cold beverage available and not have to depend on the use of a cooler or the use melting ice. I hate the sound of the word ‘ice’ because the same letters represents inefficient gobbling fossil fuel automobiles as I ‘am’ a promoter of electric vehicles.
JASON HARPER
I’m trying as hard as I can to convince my wife to plan for a Cybertruck versus a Model Y for our next vehicle.
My reasoning is it’s the same price, but has many more uses. It seats the same number of people, it has more storage, it has open air storage for transporting furniture, we can go camping with it, we can tow a trailer with it if needed, etc. etc.
Plus, I kinda like turning heads when I drive (I currently drive a BMW i3, which is a rare site in Tennessee.)
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