Getting Past External Appearances

Gordon Baker-Bone joins Kate to talk about the death of Botham Shem Jean, and how it deeply affects us as a whole collective. We also talk about how another female teacher got caught having sex with a middle school student, and the difference between how people talk about it when it's a female predator. We then discuss the current rap beefs going on, and our feelings around it. We also get into Michael Jackson, and how drugs, fame, and money affected his whole life.