Episode #241: 'Buffy' Episode 7x07, 'Angel' 4x07 - The Baby Was in the Bed

Dec 05, 2017, 06:39 PM

Join ReWatchable as we discuss Buffy 7x07, "Conversations With Dead People," and Angel 4x07, "Apocalypse, Nowish."

Superfans: Karen and Natalie
Newbies: Ariana and Kristen

Fun Facts:
Kristen rewatched Arrow season 2 this past week and loved the nostalgia. Natalie posted pics of a very cute puppy and a very scary spider. They are not getting the same level of love. Also, there's a handcrafted album of dog selfies at her residence that we all want to see. Ariana needed to discuss that Cordy/Angel conversation from last week's ep. Karen went on a Harry Potter bar crawl last night and it was everything.

Buffy season 7, episode 7, "Conversations With Dead People":
-Synopsis
-This episode ranks high for both Karen and Natalie, even if Nat can't say exactly how high.
-Four different writers wrote this episode.
-Jane Espenson wrote Dawn's parts.
-Drew Goddard wrote for the Trio.
-Joss wrote the Buffy scenes.
-Marti Noxon wrote for Willow.
-Fun Fact! Amber Benson was supposed to return as Tara for the Willow scenes, but she wanted the pure goodness of Tara to remain untarnished.
-We wish we could keep Holden, but alas, soulless vampires must be dusted.
-Buffy has an inferiority complex about her superiority complex.
-Spike isn't evil. He just can't be. We're putting our money on him being possessed by whatever evil thing haunted the others in this episode.
-Dawn was badass in this episode.
-"Buffy will not choose you. She will be against you."
-Why wasn't Andrew even the slightest bit alarmed by Warren's presence?!?!
-We are so mourning Jonathan.
-Willow had us all emotional.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Angel season 4, episode 7, "Apocalypse, Nowish":
-Synopsis
-Angel is avoiding Cordy to delay his rejection as long as possible. :(
-Cordy can't be real Cordy. She has to be a pod person. Or she's like Crazy Spike.
-Lilah so thought she was getting the power back by dressing up as Fred...but then Wesley stole her thunder with just a few simple words.
-Cordy can't "be with Angel" because she was a higher being and she saw everything Angel ever did as Angelus and felt all the hurt he inflicted on people.
-WORST. PLOT. DEVICE. EVER.
-Plus it makes no sense that she can remember everything that Angelus ever did, but can't remember how she was returned to the land of the living. So obviously a plot device.
-Cordy and Connor have sex. He's losing his virginity to a very maternal figure and it's creepy and wrong and we just can't.
-Cordy's visions are worsening.
-BAM! The Beast has arrived and we have theories about why he left Cordy and Connor alive.
-Gunn sees the bigger picture. Literally.
-We miss Wes and Gunn's friendship.
-Angel sees Cordy and Connor's sex. UGH.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Listener Feedback:
-The apologies for Angel4x07 are coming from more than just the Superfans.
-TWO, count 'em, TWO tweets came in singing all kinds of hatred for "Him."

Mitch's Musings/Brittany's Brainstorms:
-Buffy season 7, episode 8, "Sleeper"
-Buffy season 7, episode 9, "Never Leave Me"

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